Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-12-2010, 06:18 AM
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Sorry Staph. I thought I corrected it. Too busy watching the news, and playing the market.
I agree that pain was the worst pain I have ever felt. It was over 10 years ago, and man I still can feel it.
I agree that pain was the worst pain I have ever felt. It was over 10 years ago, and man I still can feel it.
02-12-2010, 06:20 AM
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Worked as advertised...thanks ACL.
02-12-2010, 06:20 AM
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Interesting article here about the hull loss of an Ethiopian 737 out of Beirut last month.
Article suggests it was a terrorist act, exactly one month after the failed Dec 25th attack.
Not the most reputable source, so take with a huge grain of salt. Still, I'm always amazed how US government sources "know" within seconds of any accident that terrorism wasn't the cause. As the saying goes, believe none of what you hear, half of what you see.
(is that a black helicopter outside my window? Gotta run!)
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Article suggests it was a terrorist act, exactly one month after the failed Dec 25th attack.
Not the most reputable source, so take with a huge grain of salt. Still, I'm always amazed how US government sources "know" within seconds of any accident that terrorism wasn't the cause. As the saying goes, believe none of what you hear, half of what you see.
(is that a black helicopter outside my window? Gotta run!)
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02-12-2010, 06:37 AM
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Not "wanking", just making an observation from my experiences thus far.
yes, not the end of the world bad, but in need of improvement in my opinion.
could be true, haven't worked at another major.
Yes, reroutes could occur.
There was in many situations.
Yes. In fact you got premium pay for every minute of block past your originally scheduled block in and your day off restored. The day off was restored by you called scheds and giving them two days, they HAD to give you one of your two choices. (It was pretty easy to get your #1 choice, btw.) (Not sure if you could bank it as an extra vaca day, but I think that was an option.)
To recap, extra pay AND your day off basically where you wanted it.(even day 2 or 3 of a 4-day, all pay protected, even for the adjacent days flying that they couldn't use you because the trip didn't touch your domicile<unless they chose to DH you twice, not very often>)
DAL WINS THIS, you could be rerouted into additional flying, but they were required to DH you home the next time you landed at a hub as long as there was 1 reserve available at the time.(So not a total loss).
Yes, as far as I can recall.(See above for how the reroute is minimized.)
Yes. IN FACT, when a reserve pilots showed for his first duty period, he was pay/credit protected FOR THE ENTIRE ROTATION..(not the case at DL, if the reserve is pulled from the trip they don't get the remainder of the trip credit added to their line value).
Yes. Did it whenever I could.
What? You mean start your trip with a DH to a different base to fly? If so, then yes they could, but who cares? They could not force you to report any earlier than your originally scheduled rotation report time(Either awarded or picked up from open time).
Force any reroute prior to the first segment to not be permitted to show any earlier than the original rotation.
Force any 23k recovery replacement to fit within the ORIGINAL report/release time of the awarded rotation when assigned prior to the last duty period of the rotation.
Trigger premium pay to occur immediately for any and all reroute flying/credit (assigned during the last duty period of the rotation)that occurs after the original block-in time.
Pay and credit protection for the entire rotation for reserves from rotation sign-in.
I have a few other ideas but don't feel like digging much deeper for now.
Lighten up Francis.
yes, not the end of the world bad, but in need of improvement in my opinion.
Yes, reroutes could occur.
There was in many situations.
To recap, extra pay AND your day off basically where you wanted it.(even day 2 or 3 of a 4-day, all pay protected, even for the adjacent days flying that they couldn't use you because the trip didn't touch your domicile<unless they chose to DH you twice, not very often>)
Yes. Did it whenever I could.
Force any 23k recovery replacement to fit within the ORIGINAL report/release time of the awarded rotation when assigned prior to the last duty period of the rotation.
Trigger premium pay to occur immediately for any and all reroute flying/credit (assigned during the last duty period of the rotation)that occurs after the original block-in time.
Pay and credit protection for the entire rotation for reserves from rotation sign-in.
I have a few other ideas but don't feel like digging much deeper for now.
Lighten up Francis.
02-12-2010, 06:37 AM
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Can someone paraphrase what happened to the LGA gate swap? Is it completely dead?
Thank you.
Thank you.
02-12-2010, 06:41 AM
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How did those trips match up to days of avilability? If you have 10 days of availability, and those trips were each 3 days... even if you have THE lowest raw score, if there are 3 dudes that have 3 DOA, they will get them. Remember that thing about seniority not having anything to do with reserve? This is yet another example. Snd me a PM if you have more questions..
02-12-2010, 06:44 AM
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They would both have to divest a percentage of the slots to an auction, and the only bidders would be those that do not have more than 5% market share and do not codeshare with DAL or AAA (read SW, AT, etc.).
So much for "de-regulation"...............
02-12-2010, 06:45 AM
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What DAL/UsAir does from here is the question.
02-12-2010, 06:49 AM
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Force any reroute prior to the first segment to not be permitted to show any earlier than the original rotation.
Allready in the contract. You can't be rerouted prior to your first segment.
Force any 23k recovery replacement to fit within the ORIGINAL report/release time of the awarded rotation when assigned prior to the last duty period of the rotation.
Recovery flying is not reroute. I don't like our recovery flying rules either but its another section of the contract.
Trigger premium pay to occur immediately for any and all reroute flying/credit (assigned during the last duty period of the rotation)that occurs after the original block-in time.
Basically we have that with exceptions. Also the way it is calculated you normally get reroute pay which is now double pay with the recent LOA for the entire day not just the reroute portion.
Pay and credit protection for the entire rotation for reserve
es from rotation sign-in.
Again this is another section of the contract and has nothing to do with reroute. It would fall under duty rigs ect..
I have a few other ideas but don't feel like digging much deeper for now.
Lighten up Francis.[/quote]
Allready in the contract. You can't be rerouted prior to your first segment.
Force any 23k recovery replacement to fit within the ORIGINAL report/release time of the awarded rotation when assigned prior to the last duty period of the rotation.
Recovery flying is not reroute. I don't like our recovery flying rules either but its another section of the contract.
Trigger premium pay to occur immediately for any and all reroute flying/credit (assigned during the last duty period of the rotation)that occurs after the original block-in time.
Basically we have that with exceptions. Also the way it is calculated you normally get reroute pay which is now double pay with the recent LOA for the entire day not just the reroute portion.
Pay and credit protection for the entire rotation for reserve
es from rotation sign-in.
Again this is another section of the contract and has nothing to do with reroute. It would fall under duty rigs ect..
I have a few other ideas but don't feel like digging much deeper for now.
Lighten up Francis.[/quote]
02-12-2010, 06:53 AM
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Can anyone PM me a phone # to Manual Services? Can't find one on DL Net.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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