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02-01-2010, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 
About the "best practice" issues... why can't we start a thread to group these things, and discuss best practices?
Maybe a couple of the discussions be spun off.
I think Best Practices, Section 6, and JAL are big enough to deserve their own threads.
About the "best practice" issues... why can't we start a thread to group these things, and discuss best practices?
Maybe a couple of the discussions be spun off.
I think Best Practices, Section 6, and JAL are big enough to deserve their own threads.
OK, I can look into it. Does anyone else agree it would be useful to group this stuff up a little bit?
What topics?
1) DAL/JAL: Impact on DAL Pilots
2) DAL/NWA: Best Practices Request to be Submitted to Flight Ops
3) DAL/NWA Section 6: What Contract Changes are Needed
do we also need one for cheerleaders, and one for kittens? What else?
02-01-2010, 06:13 AM
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Seeing that there is no big topic being talked about right now I have a question. As a DALN guy, I am new to the rsv system. I live in MSP and am now based in DTW. I plan on staying home during long call periods, there is only one time where it would be hard for me to make the 12 hr call. Nonetheless, I was wondering if there was any way to request a shortcall window. I would prefer not to have SC early in the AM, because I would have to come in the night before. Thanks IN
02-01-2010, 06:26 AM
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New,
I think if you subsituted "Delta" for "NWA" in the above, you will see a different point of view. How many different topics have been discussed on here from IT to jumpseat to pay over 80 hrs that say the fDAL system sucks. That's a bit of bashing in my book. PS. I DO like a lot of what I'm hearing you guys did. It's in the presentation that "Geeze the way you guys do it is stupid, here's how we did it and its much better." If we can get rid of the first part, the discussion will be much better. And yes I know it cuts both ways. Both former pilot groups need to do this.
To everyone,
I think everyone needs to take a "chill pill" and calm down. Nothing happens over night. I think the company has been so focused on SOC the past year that, yes, there probably was the attitude of "Thanks for your input, we'll look into it." Hopefully now that SOC has come and gone, they will start looking seriously at these issues. But, come on, it's only been a month since SOC!!! Change does not happen over night. Especially in a corporation this big. It does sound like there are changes coming down the line and going to be implemented soon like some version of the call in honest etc.
Fire Away everyone!!!
Denny
I think if you subsituted "Delta" for "NWA" in the above, you will see a different point of view. How many different topics have been discussed on here from IT to jumpseat to pay over 80 hrs that say the fDAL system sucks. That's a bit of bashing in my book. PS. I DO like a lot of what I'm hearing you guys did. It's in the presentation that "Geeze the way you guys do it is stupid, here's how we did it and its much better." If we can get rid of the first part, the discussion will be much better. And yes I know it cuts both ways. Both former pilot groups need to do this.
To everyone,
I think everyone needs to take a "chill pill" and calm down. Nothing happens over night. I think the company has been so focused on SOC the past year that, yes, there probably was the attitude of "Thanks for your input, we'll look into it." Hopefully now that SOC has come and gone, they will start looking seriously at these issues. But, come on, it's only been a month since SOC!!! Change does not happen over night. Especially in a corporation this big. It does sound like there are changes coming down the line and going to be implemented soon like some version of the call in honest etc.
Fire Away everyone!!!
Denny
Good post.
New K Now (Thanks ALPA and DAL for not requiring DC-9 guys/gals to get "the" shot.)
02-01-2010, 06:26 AM
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02-01-2010, 06:34 AM
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Has any other Fnwa people found their January take home pay was short? I understand that Dal accounting front loads the 15th paycheck but the take home should add up at the end of the month. I can't figure and I was looking to see if somone had the same problem and got it solved.
Supposedly the pay protection for December will be on the Feb. 15th paycheck. Also, instead of 75 hours of pay on the 15th we were payed 41 hours (Nwa way).
My understanding is that on Feb. 15th pay we will be payed 70 hrs. of pay minus our Jan. 29th "advance".
However, I'm about $1,000 less for the month of January than what I normally would be at. I think the problem is that we are supposed to be paid 70 hrs (reserve guarantee) but were not for January. What I mean is 41 hours from 70 is 29 hours. I was paid $1300 according to Dal's advance policy. $1300 is 16 hours for a 2nd year guy. I feel 13 hours shorted.
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02-01-2010, 06:34 AM
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Seeing that there is no big topic being talked about right now I have a question. As a DALN guy, I am new to the rsv system. I live in MSP and am now based in DTW. I plan on staying home during long call periods, there is only one time where it would be hard for me to make the 12 hr call. Nonetheless, I was wondering if there was any way to request a shortcall window. I would prefer not to have SC early in the AM, because I would have to come in the night before. Thanks IN
All you can do is ask. SC really is up to the whims of the scheduler, it's not dependent on RAW score or anything else. They have a list of which times need to be filled and off they go!
02-01-2010, 06:35 AM
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I got here around the Western merger and all I heard was "we did it right at Western, Delta is dumb." I was here during the Pan Am acquisition and all I heard was "we did it right at Pan Am, Delta is dumb." I am here for the Northwest merger and all I hear is "we did it right at Northwest, Delta is dumb."
The common thread is that Delta is still here. How can we always be the surviving carrier if everything we do is dumb? So we may be a bunch of drooling, stupid southerners but we must do something right because we are still here. Someone tried to buy us and get rid of Delta and we sent them packing back to Phoenix. You should have seen Doug Parker testify in the Senate, he already knew he had been beaten, he looked like a whipped puppy.
By the way, I have worked at Delta for 22 years. For 18 years I have made more money than Northwest, 4 years less. DALPA is a bunch of weak, bend over, management wannabes but at least we get paid better.
People hate change. Pilots REALLY hate change. We get it, you have had a lot of changes. Quit whining about it. You think all your procedures are better because you knew about them and were comfortable with them not necessarily because they are better. Everyone knows that flight ops IT is not cutting edge, but I come to work, sign in the computer, print out my rotation and I am on my way. I don't care about it because it doesn't matter at all. Every month I get on the computer and spend about 2 minutes updating my landing currency (if the F/O didn't do it). Big deal. I guess I could cry about it, but it is 2 minutes. Probably less. I spend about 3 minutes a flight messing with ACARS. What am I going to save, another 30 seconds? Really, what is the issue here.
Oh, and you need to get one more shot, for free. If you get yellow fever, you will most likely die painfully. Go get your shot, your family will thank you.
For a group that talks about being battle hardened warriors, it really takes very little for you to start moaning and complaining. SOC was one month ago and you are already crying that all your suggested changes have not been implemented yet. Give me a break.
The common thread is that Delta is still here. How can we always be the surviving carrier if everything we do is dumb? So we may be a bunch of drooling, stupid southerners but we must do something right because we are still here. Someone tried to buy us and get rid of Delta and we sent them packing back to Phoenix. You should have seen Doug Parker testify in the Senate, he already knew he had been beaten, he looked like a whipped puppy.
By the way, I have worked at Delta for 22 years. For 18 years I have made more money than Northwest, 4 years less. DALPA is a bunch of weak, bend over, management wannabes but at least we get paid better.
People hate change. Pilots REALLY hate change. We get it, you have had a lot of changes. Quit whining about it. You think all your procedures are better because you knew about them and were comfortable with them not necessarily because they are better. Everyone knows that flight ops IT is not cutting edge, but I come to work, sign in the computer, print out my rotation and I am on my way. I don't care about it because it doesn't matter at all. Every month I get on the computer and spend about 2 minutes updating my landing currency (if the F/O didn't do it). Big deal. I guess I could cry about it, but it is 2 minutes. Probably less. I spend about 3 minutes a flight messing with ACARS. What am I going to save, another 30 seconds? Really, what is the issue here.
Oh, and you need to get one more shot, for free. If you get yellow fever, you will most likely die painfully. Go get your shot, your family will thank you.
For a group that talks about being battle hardened warriors, it really takes very little for you to start moaning and complaining. SOC was one month ago and you are already crying that all your suggested changes have not been implemented yet. Give me a break.
02-01-2010, 06:43 AM
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OK, I can look into it. Does anyone else agree it would be useful to group this stuff up a little bit?
What topics?
1) DAL/JAL: Impact on DAL Pilots
2) DAL/NWA: Best Practices Request to be Submitted to Flight Ops
3) DAL/NWA Section 6: What Contract Changes are Needed
do we also need one for cheerleaders, and one for kittens? What else?
What topics?
1) DAL/JAL: Impact on DAL Pilots
2) DAL/NWA: Best Practices Request to be Submitted to Flight Ops
3) DAL/NWA Section 6: What Contract Changes are Needed
do we also need one for cheerleaders, and one for kittens? What else?
I know, they have all of those on the DALPA forum. I guess going though an automatic sign in on here is a lot easier.
02-01-2010, 06:47 AM
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Asia-Pacific air travel surpasses N.A.
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- For the first time, the Asia-Pacific region has knocked North America from its position as the world's largest aviation market, the International Air Transport Association said Monday. Last year, Asia-Pacific travelers reached 647 million, versus 638 million within North America, the lobby group said. The Asia-Pacific region is expected to significantly help the global industry narrow its losses in 2010, thanks to demand and government stimulus money, IATA said. Asia-Pacific carriers are forecast to shrink their losses to $700 million this year from $3.4 billion. In total, global losses are predicted to narrow to $5.6 billion versus a loss of $11 billion in 2009
02-01-2010, 06:52 AM
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DAL/NWA 1: Impact of Potential JAL Deal
DAL/NWA 2: Understanding and Using the Current PWA
DAL/NWA 3: The PWA We Require in 2012
DAL/NWA 4: Looking for Best Practices
And I think the DALPA forum is not useful for more than just the log-in reason. But you already knew that...
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