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Old 01-31-2010, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I have no such quest to get to self help. My quest is to start negotiations early so as to achieve a new contract by the amendable date. The methodology that I and others have stated are clear.

A proffer of arbritration is just that...a proffer. All one side has to do is say no, and it's done. When it comes to binding arbitration, I would hope our side would be the one to say no, and quickly.

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I hope what you meant to say was to achieve a GOOD contract by the amendable date. Achieving one just to get it done is not necessarily a good idea... with all the variables involved, time may or may not be on our side. I guess we will find out in a year or so.
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:23 PM
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a little button pushing happy... duplicated effort
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:23 PM
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BTW, there was a Clamp sighting in A concourse ops at around 1600 today during an airport appreciation sit. Thanks to the company giving this vampire a trip with all early morning sign ins, someone got an opportunity to take a picture of me:

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Old 01-31-2010, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
The corporate transaction happened October 30, 2008. We got to SOC December 31, 2009 by using "adopt and go." There will be changes looking for the "better" way coming.
No there won't, and most of us understand that. I've spoken personally to many former PanAm and former Western guys, and the response is the same: "Delta doesn't believe in adopt and go, they believe in adapt or go away." But I'm sure they were all just whiners too.

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And for all the guys that bash IT, compare Delta's result after 14 months with that of USAirways.
There you have it. Leave it to you to find a metric that makes IT look good by comparison. If you are any indication of the MEC, DALPA and DAL are joined at the hip...at one with the universe...finished with a full vulcan mind meld.

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Old 01-31-2010, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
BTW, there was a Clamp sighting in A concourse ops at around 1600 today during an airport appreciation sit. Thanks to the company giving this vampire a trip with all early morning sign ins, someone got an opportunity to take a picture of me:
Is this a picture of you taking care of the flight attendants prized possession?

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Old 01-31-2010, 07:37 PM
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Anyone hear a motorboat?
Why yes I think that is a motor boat you hear!
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I hope what you meant to say was to achieve a GOOD contract by the amendable date. Achieving one just to get it done is not necessarily a good idea... with all the variables involved, time may or may not be on our side. I guess we will find out in a year or so.
Yes. I made that fairly clear in my last 850,000 posts.

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Old 01-31-2010, 07:44 PM
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WE NEED LESS OF THIS



AND MORE OF THIS

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Old 01-31-2010, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
No there won't, and most of us understand that. I've spoken personally to many former PanAm and former Western guys, and the response is the same: "Delta doesn't believe in adopt and go, they believe in adapt or go away." But I'm sure they were all just whiners too.

Carl

Carl,

We just saw one change in policy regarding the yellow fever. I think that we owe it to the folks on the transition teams to have a little patience. They just completed the biggest milestone (SOC) in record time.

We (DAL-N) have been complaining for the last how many months about all the changes that we have had to endure and now we are complaining that there aren't going to be more of them?

If we don't see a true melding of the worlds happening, then lets get the pitchforks and torches. I just don't think that it is fair to openly state as fact that there wont be any changes because the PanAm guys said so.

What would you consider a reasonable time-frame for best practice changes to begin occurring as policy?
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Yes. I made that fairly clear in my last 850,000 posts.

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Your math is off Captain. Ready for the gear?
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