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01-30-2010, 11:17 PM

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NuGuy

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane

I'm kinda liking the idea of time and a half for over 80 hours. My guess is that a few more people would pick up time to over 80 but I'm betting there would not be a huge effect on greenslips. Look at how many guys go over 80 every month for straight pay now. It would also spread the largesse around a little more evenly.

Denny

Heyas Denny,

There were a couple of levels of "premium" at NWA:

1) There was "regular" premium pay. This was 1.5 for ALL credit above 80, and it didn't matter if it was reserve, regular or whatever. Once you ticked over 80, overtime started.

2) Then there were designated "premium pay" trips, VERY similar to the current GS system. These paid 1.5, even if you weren't over 80. If you WERE over 80, then they paid 1.5 x 1.5. Ka CHING!

3) There was voluntary and involuntary callout. You put your name into the computer, and you could designate what kind of trips you wanted. Voluntary callout paid 1.5, and again subject to another 1.5 over 80.

Our involuntary call out (IE inverse assignment) was extremely limited. Only those in the bottom %10 of the blockholders in any category (base, seat and AC, with a minumum of 5, but a maximum of 10 pilots) could be involuntarily called out, and it paid 2x (again subject to the premium at 80).

This really made for the best of all worlds. Unlike the current GS system, which really only favors those that live in base, this system "spread the wealth around", and permitted some long term arrangement of schedules to capitalize on overtime.

But it also provided local pilots some short call advantage by grabbing some premium trips that popped up, very similar to the current GS system. And man, if you went over 80 with them, it was REALLY worth your while.

THIS is the system we should have adopted.

Nu

01-30-2010, 11:48 PM

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keenster

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Word on the street. Absolutely no more 747-400s. New JAL CEO put the brakes on the DAL - JAL alliance as of now. 65% chance that it is us. Possible comuter jump seat book in future. That's all for now. Tokoyo over and out.

01-31-2010, 03:53 AM

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acl65pilot

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Originally Posted by keenster

As many have stated the best deals can fall apart at the last minute. If true, oh well. If not oh well. We just fly em.

01-31-2010, 04:02 AM

#27574

acl65pilot

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Originally Posted by Reroute

Our engagement with management has been productive for both sides since the hostile takeover. The big question is can it deliver an industry leading contract for the pilots working for the industry's leading airline?

I have no doubt, as long as we pilots pull together and not apart, that we will ultimately get an industry leading contract. We can get it by working with management, which would nice and create a great deal less uncertainty for the company, investors, corporate travel departments, the traveling public, politicians, etc., or we'll get it the old fashion way, with all the costs, loss of revenue and disruption associated with it.

One path will ensure continued positive engagement, the other distrust and acrimony.

The fork in the road is approaching. We're currently on the road less traveled, it's a nicer road, but it's also a toll road and it's management's turn to pony up, or we'll get off it.

Agreed. I just think that there are some pilots that do not beleive that we will get off the road even when it is needed. Convince them (the skeptical pilots) of that(willingness to abandon the current tacit) and support of the MEC goes through the roof. Just my .02

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