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Old 01-30-2010, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The trick would be to keep time and a half to what max pickup is. Sometimes it is barely above 80.
Many would see an issue with unlimited pickup to FAR max as it bores though the max pickup provision in the PWA. Just something to think about. Now Time and a half on a WS, or IA for line holders and double time for a GA,IA for reservists may be the way to go.
Agree 110%. If the reserves available are less than the reserves required, then a WS should be 150%. IA and GS for lineholders should be 2X pay. GS for reserves should be 150% and IA for reserves should be 2X pay both over guarantee. Pay at 150% over 80 hours doesn't work if we have a cap, and I think you already know how I feel about the cap.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:47 PM
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I just ate 10 sushi rolls and got my picture taken with Marilyn Monroe. I love Vegas!

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Old 01-30-2010, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
BTW, FtB;
BW3's Spicy Garlic wings are awesome. Nice that they have one near the street hotel in DTW.
Honey BBQ or teriyaki. I miss the BW3s that were order on your own. There was one up in Medina OH I used to go to that had an awesome setup in what looked like an old cracker barrel. $0.30 wing night and no waitresses unless you wanted beer. It was great. Now with waitresses its so slow I don't like going... as much. I don't like to go as much. I still like to go.

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Oh...you've done it. Now I'm hungry. Such wonderful and beautiful goodness are my Spicy Garlic wings....
Come on Mr FSU, saturday night munchies?!? Make a run for the border just like in college! Its open til 2am at partcipating locations.

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Brother, I do not drink either. Quit many moons ago. Funny thing was when I was drinking my cholesterol was 125. After I quit in was about 175. Just plain crazy. I also lost about 15 lbs as well. Now I just have to give up pizza......
I'm not giving up pizza... I can't give up pizza... I love pizza and it loves me... God didn't make me lactose intolerant for a reason!

Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I'm kinda liking the idea of time and a half for over 80 hours. My guess is that a few more people would pick up time to over 80 but I'm betting there would not be a huge effect on greenslips. Look at how many guys go over 80 every month for straight pay now. It would also spread the largesse around a little more evenly.

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I think I'm in for 1.5x above 80 too. Greenslips have too many strings attached and a simpler system would be preffered. Would that be for reserve too?
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Old 01-30-2010, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I just ate 10 sushi rolls and got my picture taken with Marilyn Monroe. I love Vegas!
Satch, have you ever seen Man vs Food (forget the earlier conversation and just roll with me here) but he did Vegas and here are some suggestions for you (forgive the wikipedia crap intermixed here):

Man vs. Food
Adam went to Las Vegas, Nevada, in early May 2009 to face off against fried chicken eggs Benedict at Hash House A-Go-Go and spicy crawfish at Hot'n'Juicy Crawfish.[16] This week's competition is the "Big Badass Burrito" challenge at the NASCAR Café in the Sahara Hotel and Casino.[6][17][18] The burrito is a 6-pound two-feet-long concoction packed with more than 5,000 calories of food. Over 140 people have tried it prior to Richman's attempt, but only two had finished it. Richman's challenge is to become the third person to complete the burrito in under 90 minutes.[19] Anybody who completes the challenge wins a "Conqueror" t-shirt and "lifetime access to the Sahara's roller coaster."[6][19] Ultimately, Adam failed, surrendering with only 1 pound of the burrito remaining, and for that he was forced to wear a small pink "Certified Weenie" t-shirt and get his picture posted on the café's "Weenie Wall of Shame". After taping for the challenge was complete, Richman spent an hour on a treadmill, telling the Las Vegas Review-Journal, "Being sedentary is incredibly uncomfortable. [...] [D]espite the fact that the first 10 minutes or 15 minutes on the treadmill might suck, it actually does alleviate a lot of pressure, and you feel better."[6] The Hash House A-Go-Go taping took place on Friday, May 8, and the NASCAR Café challenge was taped on Saturday, May 9.
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Old 01-30-2010, 08:14 PM
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I'm jaded and tend to side with fNWA on most opinions here, especially since our union is supporting the theft of fNWA 07-08 hires out of 3% of our 401k contribution regardless of the fact we have no pension.

However... Green slips are way better than 1.5x over 80 was under the fNWA contract in my opinion. I thought it wouldn't be, but it is. Green slips are not rare like the fNWA premium pay trips were. I'm doing way better under the DAL contract in regard to overtime than I ever could have under the NWA contract.
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Old 01-30-2010, 08:23 PM
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FtB,

It should include anyone who breaks 80 hours whether they are on a reserve or regular line. The only problem with it is reserve trips need to garner/earn the same amount of hours as regular trips. I've thought this for the last 20+ years but from contract to contract it never changes.

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Old 01-30-2010, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Satch, have you ever seen Man vs Food (forget the earlier conversation and just roll with me here) but he did Vegas and here are some suggestions for you (forgive the wikipedia crap intermixed here):

Man vs. Food
Adam went to Las Vegas, Nevada, in early May 2009 to face off against fried chicken eggs Benedict at Hash House A-Go-Go and spicy crawfish at Hot'n'Juicy Crawfish.[16] This week's competition is the "Big Badass Burrito" challenge at the NASCAR Café in the Sahara Hotel and Casino.[6][17][18] The burrito is a 6-pound two-feet-long concoction packed with more than 5,000 calories of food. Over 140 people have tried it prior to Richman's attempt, but only two had finished it. Richman's challenge is to become the third person to complete the burrito in under 90 minutes.[19] Anybody who completes the challenge wins a "Conqueror" t-shirt and "lifetime access to the Sahara's roller coaster."[6][19] Ultimately, Adam failed, surrendering with only 1 pound of the burrito remaining, and for that he was forced to wear a small pink "Certified Weenie" t-shirt and get his picture posted on the café's "Weenie Wall of Shame". After taping for the challenge was complete, Richman spent an hour on a treadmill, telling the Las Vegas Review-Journal, "Being sedentary is incredibly uncomfortable. [...] [D]espite the fact that the first 10 minutes or 15 minutes on the treadmill might suck, it actually does alleviate a lot of pressure, and you feel better."[6] The Hash House A-Go-Go taping took place on Friday, May 8, and the NASCAR Café challenge was taped on Saturday, May 9.
Reminds me of out and backs to College Station. We would go to Freebirds and if the student could eat the Super Monster and a Marble Slab for desert he got to sleep on the back half and i would fly.
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Old 01-30-2010, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by redblueskies
I'm jaded and tend to side with fNWA on most opinions here, especially since our union is supporting the theft of fNWA 07-08 hires out of 3% of our 401k contribution regardless of the fact we have no pension...
Careful, you'll upset Carl Spackler talking like that. If you were meant to be a real airline pilot, you would have his DB or a real Delta DC. Instead, you are with the other 180 of us, a "unique" position. All I can say is, DFR.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Reroute
Our engagement with management has been productive for both sides since the hostile takeover. The big question is can it deliver an industry leading contract for the pilots working for the industry's leading airline?

I have no doubt, as long as we pilots pull together and not apart, that we will ultimately get an industry leading contract. We can get it by working with management, which would nice and create a great deal less uncertainty for the company, investors, corporate travel departments, the traveling public, politicians, etc., or we'll get it the old fashion way, with all the costs, loss of revenue and disruption associated with it.

One path will ensure continued positive engagement, the other distrust and acrimony.

The fork in the road is approaching. We're currently on the road less travelled, it's a nicer road, but it's also a toll road and it's management's turn to pony up, or we'll get off it.
Very well said.

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Old 01-30-2010, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I just ate 10 sushi rolls and got my picture taken with Marilyn Monroe. I love Vegas!

Really?

Anyone ever tell you that you look a lot like a video poker machine?

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