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THAT won't be a problem! Sounds like DTW and SEA are going to be the Asian gateway cities.
Denny
Having (yet agian) called my rep for clarification. This contract (PWA) is the old Delta PWA. There was very little brought over from the NWA contract during negotiations. Time and 1/2 over 80 brought more money to the former NWA pilots than green slip flying to the former DAL pilots. This survey was only done over a 3-4 month window and presented to the MEC. At the time of the survey, no NWA pilots were in bid period 5. My rep told me that one month , the NWA pilots made 4.5 times MORE MONEY than green slip money paid to DAL pilots. EVERY month that was shown, MORE money was paid out under the NWA time and one half over 80 program than the green slip program. I agree with FERD that we should have all the numbers presented. Pick the plan that puts the MOST DOLLARS in ALL of our pockets!
Last edited by Model Citezen; 01-30-2010 at 10:12 PM. Reason: I messed up the math.
I'm kinda liking the idea of time and a half for over 80 hours. My guess is that a few more people would pick up time to over 80 but I'm betting there would not be a huge effect on greenslips. Look at how many guys go over 80 every month for straight pay now. It would also spread the largesse around a little more evenly.
Denny
Denny
You're exactly right Satch, that and laying off sweet tea, coffee and coca-cola (pop for FNWA). But I hate to admit this because it'll blow my cover on my typos, I don't drink. stop laughing. it just kind of happened. I just don't type well but I type real fast. quantity over quality. now i'll need another typo reason. but i do appreciate the thought satch! Your heart is in the right place even for your fellow pilot even if he is an Auburn grad!
I had a job not long ago prior to Delta where it was all expense paid on the road and I'd eat wrong or at the wrong time and that was a problem (especially in places like LAS, SNA, SFO, etc) plus no time to exercise and no desire to take up running again. It all mixed together. My wife does this video so she finally talked me into it. I like it. Plus I want this job for the next 35 years or until I decide to retire.
Good bye my good friends.... good... well, hey, maybe I'll work out twice...
I had a job not long ago prior to Delta where it was all expense paid on the road and I'd eat wrong or at the wrong time and that was a problem (especially in places like LAS, SNA, SFO, etc) plus no time to exercise and no desire to take up running again. It all mixed together. My wife does this video so she finally talked me into it. I like it. Plus I want this job for the next 35 years or until I decide to retire.
Good bye my good friends.... good... well, hey, maybe I'll work out twice...
I'm kinda liking the idea of time and a half for over 80 hours. My guess is that a few more people would pick up time to over 80 but I'm betting there would not be a huge effect on greenslips. Look at how many guys go over 80 every month for straight pay now. It would also spread the largesse around a little more evenly.
Denny
Denny
Many would see an issue with unlimited pickup to FAR max as it bores though the max pickup provision in the PWA. Just something to think about. Now Time and a half on a WS, or IA for line holders and double time for a GA,IA for reservists may be the way to go.
Just a few thought that flew though my mind when I read your post.
BTW, FtB;
BW3's Spicy Garlic wings are awesome. Nice that they have one near the street hotel in DTW.
BW3's Spicy Garlic wings are awesome. Nice that they have one near the street hotel in DTW.
Having (yet agian) called my rep for clarification. This contract (PWA) is the old Delta PWA. There was very little brought over from the NWA contract during negotiations. Time and 1/2 over 80 brought more money to the former NWA pilots than green slip flying to the former DAL pilots. This survey was only done over a 3-4 month window and presented to the MEC. At the time of the survey, no NWA pilots were in bid period 5. My rep told me that one month , the NWA pilots made 6 times MORE MONEY than green slip money paid to DAL pilots. EVERY month that was shown, MORE money was paid out under the NWA time and one half over 80 program than the green slip program. I agree with FERD that we should have all the numbers presented. Pick the plan that puts the MOST DOLLARS in ALL of our pockets!
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Ferd
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What's in it for them? The continued cooperation of a highly skilled pilot group that has built and defended Delta Air Lines.
What's the downside if they don't? I would like to see the MEC Chairman say the same thing to them that he said to the Wall Street banks that were going to finance the USAir purchase of Delta: "It's going to be very difficult to operate an airline with angry pilots."
Carl
What's the downside if they don't? I would like to see the MEC Chairman say the same thing to them that he said to the Wall Street banks that were going to finance the USAir purchase of Delta: "It's going to be very difficult to operate an airline with angry pilots."
Carl
I have no doubt, as long as we pilots pull together and not apart, that we will ultimately get an industry leading contract. We can get it by working with management, which would nice and create a great deal less uncertainty for the company, investors, corporate travel departments, the traveling public, politicians, etc., or we'll get it the old fashion way, with all the costs, loss of revenue and disruption associated with it.
One path will ensure continued positive engagement, the other distrust and acrimony.
The fork in the road is approaching. We're currently on the road less travelled, it's a nicer road, but it's also a toll road and it's management's turn to pony up, or we'll get off it.
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