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01-30-2010, 02:59 PM
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01-30-2010, 03:03 PM
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01-30-2010, 03:03 PM
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01-30-2010, 03:07 PM
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Denny
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01-30-2010, 03:26 PM
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I have a quick question for DAL-N guys. I've been riding on your Airbuses a lot lately (about seven times over the past couple weeks), and not once did the pilots single engine taxi. All the taxi times have long enough to single engine taxi with some as long as 20-25 minutes. Does the Airbus have some kind of limitation on it for single engine taxi? I'm even looking at a DC-9 and A320 here in MSP with both air and power hooked up, but APU's running. I'm just curious what's up with all the fuel burning? Is there something I'm missing?
No limitations for SE taxi on either aircraft. The DC9 does have to be fairly light to SE taxi, otherwise it takes way too much power to get rolling.
The only limitation on the A320 is 3 min warm-up and 5 min warm-up on first flight of the day for the engines. Seems like in your situations there was more then enough time to SE taxi and still get the warm up. SE taxi was never pushed as hard at NWA as it is at DAL, so many guys are still adjusting to the concept. I know that seems wierd, but in the environment that NWA operates often times a SE taxi won't work. Icy ramps and taxi ways can be very difficult to taxi on, especially when turning into gates.
My previous time on the 320 I often witnessed SE taxi, but the PTU is very noisy and often can make passengers uneasy. If you're not familiar with the 320, in a SE situation the PTU transfers hydraulic pressure from one system to the other because it's normally the engine driven pump that does so. You'll often hear it on the engine start, and it's a real whiny choppy noise. Also, when in a SE taxi the shuttle valve in the braking system makes loud clunking noises. I personally don't think these are reasons to NOT SE taxi, as a simply PA before pushback will soothe the uneasy fliers.
As far as the gate situation, often the ramp personnel will plug the power in but run off without verifying it's working.
Then we're stuck calling ops trying to get ramp peeps back out to check it, but we don't have time to wait because we are on a 25 minute turn with an aircraft change.
01-30-2010, 03:27 PM
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No sweat NewK!! I wish I could join you in the courvoisier!!!! I'm abstaining from liquor until my next Faa physical at the end of next week. I have a deal with my Faa Doc that for every pound I'm over last Februarys weight, I owe him a buck and for every pound I'm under, he takes a dollar off his fee! Being the penny pinching pilot I am, I'm determined to win a few bucks!!!
Denny
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I am being altruistic here. Please accept my altrusticity as you are senior to me and by suggesting this I am offering something that will... sigh... keep you senior longer.
I highly suggest Ms Jillian Michaels from the biggest loser. She has a 30 day video. Its easy on the eyes (especially her helper) and she'll kick your tail in 20 minutes and your wife will do it with you.
Yep.
Not afraid to admit it. I prefer looking at women while I'm working out. I'm down 15 lbs.
I'm so tempted to post some of these pictures I find of Jillian Michaels and friends but I won't...
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01-30-2010, 03:30 PM
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There has been a lot of talk about trying to open contract negotiations early
Effective Date and Duration
Except as expressly provided otherwise, this agreement will become effective on October 30, 2008, will continue in full force and effect through December 31, 2012, and will renew itself without change through each succeeding December 31st, unless written notice of intended change is served in accordance with Section 6, Title I, of the Railway Labor Act, as
amended, by either party hereto at least 60 days but no more than 270 days prior to December 31, 2012 or December 31st in any year thereafter. In the absence of an agreement by March 31, 2013, the parties agree to jointly petition the National Mediation Board for mediation services.
Denny
Effective Date and Duration
Except as expressly provided otherwise, this agreement will become effective on October 30, 2008, will continue in full force and effect through December 31, 2012, and will renew itself without change through each succeeding December 31st, unless written notice of intended change is served in accordance with Section 6, Title I, of the Railway Labor Act, as
amended, by either party hereto at least 60 days but no more than 270 days prior to December 31, 2012 or December 31st in any year thereafter. In the absence of an agreement by March 31, 2013, the parties agree to jointly petition the National Mediation Board for mediation services.
Denny
This is why I've used the word "request" in all my previous posts on the subject. There is almost no possibility of negotiating a new PWA in 270 days. We will have to request an earlier start. Management will have to agree. I want DALPA to make the request, and I want to hear management's response.
Carl
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A couple things I think we may be overlooking:
We can talk to management anytime we want. We can even "negotiate" about any subject, any time we want. Section six is not required for bargaining to take place.
However, a "Section Six Notice" is the big one. It has a very specific legal meaning under the RLA and starts a number of "clocks" ticking and triggers several legal duties and requirements.
The 270 day max for early talks is in the contract for a reason. It protects both parties. Under current circumstances, there is very little chance that management will waive that provision and open section six talks early.
Besides the RLA time clocks, if section 6 talks are under way, then "status quo" applies. That has a number of very powerful legal effects and it basically puts the entirety of our contractual relationship under the jurisdiction of the NMB.
Section 6 also provides for either party to force a start to mediation under the NMB and get the whole ball rolling on mediation, arbitration proffer, cooling-off, PEB, Congressional action, etc. That's a huge political risk. For both parties.
Are you confident Obama would let us strike? Not me. The economy is fragile and he's got other irons in the fire.
Is management confident he would stop a strike? Nope. Bush they could count on; not Obama.
That's why they will never agree to open early. JMHO.
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01-30-2010, 03:33 PM
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