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Old 01-27-2010, 10:52 PM
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No help from here. Stupid has been duly ignored or countered without the idiocy.

Chill.
How can I not love you guys??? Duly noted and I will follow your example...
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Model Citezen
ACL,
They have three year terms. So it looks like you would have to wait until 3/1/13..... There is always NYC,SEA, and MEM that are up for a vote at the end of this year. I think you should set your sights on GUM...... (hear the laughter). I think you should run, if you want.
Exactly, and the election would be fall of 2012.
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:44 AM
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I'm sure this sums up what Mr APC monitor and SD and RA (p.s. Ftb: you're so kicking AMRs ### and I'm a brownoser) thinks of us, some smart, some:



The rare first pic of Acl (left) and ftb (right). I think he was explaining something to me, I think 80 told ACL that "he probably kept up with you for a mile or so... tough little mutt."
That picture is awesome. I am typing from the floor since I am laughing so hard I am coughing up blood. Way to go!

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Old 01-28-2010, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Battle tested doesn't mean joining with management to stop a USAir takeover. Battle tested doesn't mean losing retirements, pay and work rules in bankruptcy court. Battle tested means withdrawing your services from a management team that wants to destroy you and your union. DALPA has never experienced that.

I hope you're right that DALPA will have a strategy for the talks in 2012. I'd be happier if they announced their strategy to begin those talks this year so that we have a new contract ON the amendable date of our current contract. I also hope they have a strategy of preparing the membership for self help in the event that management wants to begin talks in 2012 and finish them around 2015 with a concessionary final offer.

Unless DALPA has a marked change in leadership, it is clear to me that our success will greatly depend upon how nice management decides to be with us.

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First, you may get the first one. That is always a possibility.

Two, BOD is in OCT so you may get your wish on that too. My question is who do you want to tell your reps to elect?
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:58 AM
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TSA in Detroit, AKA The Motor City, kicked Ford's Motor Trend "Car of the Year" off a jet (I'm guessing it was a Delta jet) Ford has to be a pretty important client of ours.

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When we look at Motor Trend magazine's golden calipers, we think of a prestigious trophy awarded each year to the publication's top car and truck of the year. Apparently, the Transportation Security Administration officials at the Detroit Metropolitan Airport see a weapon of mass destruction. Or something.

The proud engineers at Ford have been taking their well-deserved 2010 Ford Fusion Car of the Year award all over town, taking pictures and having a little fun, mimicking what athletes do when they win Lord Stanley's Cup in hockey or the Lombardi Trophy in football. Ford Research & Advanced Engineering employee Tony Phillips went as far as Disney World with the award, but apparently not before coming to the attention of the TSA at Detroit Metro airport. Phillips had rightly brought the sizable trophy onto the plane as a carry-on – after all, who would want to tell Allan Mulally that they lost the trophy at baggage claim?

MT's shiny hardware was eventually let on the plane after "some interesting discussion, and it made its way to Orlando to ride some rides and hang with Mickey. Surprisingly, the Orlando TSA agents were more familiar with Ford's award than were the security agents in the Motor City, and congratulations were given to them on the accomplishment.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:43 AM
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I'm looking for more sources, another thread just started...

JAL dumps alliance with American Airlines in favor of Delta, SkyTeam
(Mainichi Japan) January 28, 2010

Japan Airlines (JAL) decided Wednesday to dump its partnership with American Airlines and its Oneworld alliance in favor of Delta and the SkyTeam group of carriers.

American together with a private equity firm had offered to invest $1.4 billion in JAL and strengthen cooperation between the two airlines, but JAL judged an alliance with Delta -- the world's largest airline -- would produce greater benefits.

The partnership with Delta will be officially announced by new JAL Chairman Kazuo Inamori on Monday.

To solidify the new alliance, JAL intends to apply to the Japanese and U.S. governments for antitrust immunity. The airline is also examining strengthening its international network with new routes from Narita International Airport to Detroit -- the hub for Northwest Airlines, acquired by Delta last year -- and from Haneda Airport to Amsterdam's Schiphol, SkyTeam partner KLM's home airport.

Delta and JAL cover many of the same routes, allowing the two airlines to better efficiency through schedule and fare collaboration. According to estimates by the state-backed Enterprise Turnaround Initiative Corp. of Japan (ETIC) -- overseeing JAL's restructuring process -- if JAL obtains antitrust immunity, the benefits of the Delta partnership could rise to some 17.2 billion yen. Even if the JAL-Delta deal does not receive immunity, the new partnership will result in benefits of around 9.2 billion yen -- still a significant jump from the 5.4 billion yen realized through the alliance with American.

Delta had previously offered a total $1.02 billion in financial support to JAL, including $500 million in new investment. As the leader in rebuilding the airline, however, ETIC apparently inclined to the belief that foreign financing was unnecessary for recovery, and elected to restrict any involvement with Delta to business collaboration.

Well like I stated there is nothing "official" on the JAL English or Japanese site.

All the players are in the correct locations so I am sure it will be shortly.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:55 AM
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NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- Despite Delta Air Lines'(DAL Quote) below-consensus fourth quarter results, there are a host of reasons to remain optimistic about the company's future growth.

This, at least, is the takeaway from analyst Stifel Nicolaus analysts, who have retained their buy recommendation for the airline.

Of the positive takeaways from Delta's fourth-quarter earnings, perhaps the most important, according to Stifel, is that Delta's January PRASM (Passenger Revenue per Available Seat Mile) is likely to increase 2% year-over-year. This compares favorably to the industry in general and, more specifically, to Continental's (CAL Quote) estimated January PRASM decline of 3% year-over-year, notes Stifel analyst Hunter Keay in a note to investors.

Another positive indicator from the Delta earnings report: Delta's management expects other net revenue -- generally high margin -- to increase $500 million year-over-year in 2010, implying 12% growth. To Stifel, this projection appears optimistic and assumes a significant contribution from Delta's third party MRO (Maintenance, Repair and Operation) business, Delta TechOps.

Furthermore, the company's 2010 capacity plan remains unchanged from early December. This is welcome news, according to Stifel, as Delta slightly increased ASM (Available Seat-Miles) guidance from -2% year-over-year to 0% year-over-year.

"We view capacity discipline as the most critical component of any airline bull case," Keay wrote.

Delta reported fourth quarter loss of 27 cents, below the consensus estimate of a 24 cent-loss on lower-than-expected revenue. Delta's PRASM declined 5.4% year-over-year in the fourth quarter in the guidance range of -5% to -6%, but below Stifel's estimate of -4.7%.

-- Reported by Andrea Tse in New York

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/stor...FREE&cm_ite=NA

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Old 01-28-2010, 04:24 AM
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NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- Despite Delta Air Lines'(DAL Quote) below-consensus fourth quarter results, there are a host of reasons to remain optimistic about the company's future growth.

This, at least, is the takeaway from analyst Stifel Nicolaus analysts, who have retained their buy recommendation for the airline.

Of the positive takeaways from Delta's fourth-quarter earnings, perhaps the most important, according to Stifel, is that Delta's January PRASM (Passenger Revenue per Available Seat Mile) is likely to increase 2% year-over-year. This compares favorably to the industry in general and, more specifically, to Continental's (CAL Quote) estimated January PRASM decline of 3% year-over-year, notes Stifel analyst Hunter Keay in a note to investors.

Another positive indicator from the Delta earnings report: Delta's management expects other net revenue -- generally high margin -- to increase $500 million year-over-year in 2010, implying 12% growth. To Stifel, this projection appears optimistic and assumes a significant contribution from Delta's third party MRO (Maintenance, Repair and Operation) business, Delta TechOps.

Furthermore, the company's 2010 capacity plan remains unchanged from early December. This is welcome news, according to Stifel, as Delta slightly increased ASM (Available Seat-Miles) guidance from -2% year-over-year to 0% year-over-year.

"We view capacity discipline as the most critical component of any airline bull case," Keay wrote.

Delta reported fourth quarter loss of 27 cents, below the consensus estimate of a 24 cent-loss on lower-than-expected revenue. Delta's PRASM declined 5.4% year-over-year in the fourth quarter in the guidance range of -5% to -6%, but below Stifel's estimate of -4.7%.

-- Reported by Andrea Tse in New York

Don't Be Too Quick in Jumping From Delta | Aerospace/Defense | Financial Articles & Investing News | TheStreet.com

That alone is good news. Well better bad news really. Point is that we are slowly returning to the RASM numbers we had a few years ago. At some points this last year we were off by over 20%.
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Model Citezen
It looks like in the NEW Delta Policy manual, the only positions to elect(after MEC head honchos and BOD) are the negotiators and merger committee. I applaud you for wanting to do the job. It looks like you would have to be buds with the MEC Chairman. Go to the Delta ALPA web site and download the manual.
Thanks man. I should educate myself on such things of course. I think this should be an elected position, as important as it is becoming these days.
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
Thanks man. I should educate myself on such things of course. I think this should be an elected position, as important as it is becoming these days.
What positions are appointed etc are in the Policy Manual.

All of these are appointed my the MEC. The Comm Chair and many other work for the MEC. Understanding the structure and how people report is very important to understanding how the Association functions.
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