Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-26-2010, 11:29 AM
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01-26-2010, 11:34 AM
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01-26-2010, 11:50 AM
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I read earlier that we had $1.4 billion in fuel hedge losses. Was that for the quarter? How much longer are we going to write down fuel hedge losses? I thought we were done with that.?!
Denny
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01-26-2010, 11:54 AM
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Delta's net loss was $25 million, or $0.03 per share, for the December 2009 quarter.
Delta's net loss for 2009 was $1.2 billion, including $169 million in special items. Excluding special items and $1.4 billion of fuel hedge losses, Delta's net profit for 2009 was $291 million.
Delta ended 2009 with $5.4 billion in unrestricted liquidity, a $400 million increase year over year.
01-26-2010, 11:58 AM
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That's not completely true. There is not a direct relationship between the stick and the flight controls until the airplane is on the ground in normal law.
01-26-2010, 12:04 PM
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Super,
Yeah, I read what you posted on the other thread and the fuel hedge write off among the other stuff just stuck out. You're right, that profit sharing question is the real question. My cynical (realistic) side is coming thru saying we all know the answer to it!!
Denny
Yeah, I read what you posted on the other thread and the fuel hedge write off among the other stuff just stuck out. You're right, that profit sharing question is the real question. My cynical (realistic) side is coming thru saying we all know the answer to it!!
Denny
01-26-2010, 12:20 PM
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I couldn't disagree more. King did something that I've never seen on these boards. He tried to stop a debate by saying "management knows who all you guys are...and you are about to learn a painful lesson that you'll never forget, etc." Complete threatening BS, but it sure has worked for the folks on this thread.
So there it is, the answer to the question that I've asked twice, which was: is there EVER a time where the majority of DAL pilots would use a self help weapon against their own management team? The answer is not only a resounding no, but apparently all it takes is a few posts from an anonymous internet character to stop any debate on the subject.
So I wish you all the best folks. Continue to discuss whether management will buy more airplanes, or hire more pilots. But most importantly, pray that management is always nice to us. Because in my opinion, this pilot group does not have the will to fight management if that's what it comes to.
Maybe I'm just too old and have fought too many battles against management, but it seems to me that our current crop of leaders have a profound fear of fighting. They simply cannot accept the possibility of a negative consequence. But they can't outwardly discuss how afraid they are to fight, so they develop terms like: "a cooperative relationship with management." That sounds so much better than the real truth. Only time will tell whether this experiment will work. My opinion - no way.
Best to all,
Carl
So there it is, the answer to the question that I've asked twice, which was: is there EVER a time where the majority of DAL pilots would use a self help weapon against their own management team? The answer is not only a resounding no, but apparently all it takes is a few posts from an anonymous internet character to stop any debate on the subject.
So I wish you all the best folks. Continue to discuss whether management will buy more airplanes, or hire more pilots. But most importantly, pray that management is always nice to us. Because in my opinion, this pilot group does not have the will to fight management if that's what it comes to.
Maybe I'm just too old and have fought too many battles against management, but it seems to me that our current crop of leaders have a profound fear of fighting. They simply cannot accept the possibility of a negative consequence. But they can't outwardly discuss how afraid they are to fight, so they develop terms like: "a cooperative relationship with management." That sounds so much better than the real truth. Only time will tell whether this experiment will work. My opinion - no way.
Best to all,
Carl
They do know who ppl are, and the opinions on here are noted. They can also effect outcomes.
01-26-2010, 12:38 PM
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Anybody know if there is a non-rev line to list on USAir flights or jumpseats, or is it just a walk-up deal?
01-26-2010, 12:39 PM
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And to think I was starting to like you... But hat picture of Tebow is just... ewwwwwww Something a 14 year old girl would have on her closet door.
01-26-2010, 12:40 PM
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