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Old 01-25-2010, 10:44 AM
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Ooh Catholic Guilt. That there is some powerful stuff!
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by beer
Anyone in the pilot lounge listening to SD? Lets get some info!!!
Hiring 400 soon
DFW base with the new 90's on the next bid in late May, early June. Layovers on the West Coast.

Sounds Great
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Wish they would post a web cast.
Come on bar!

We can all said he said this, or that, but to have a tape that states exactly what was said and the mannerisms used, no way.
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
I think after I had expended my 2200 hours...than we went on LTDB until we hit retirement age. Carl, Ferd?
You are correct sir. Or should I say, you were correct.

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Old 01-25-2010, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
Hiring 400 soon
DFW base with the new 90's on the next bid in late May, early June. Layovers on the West Coast.

Sounds Great
I would be very happy if he said that. That would shut a few guys up!
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I would be very happy if he said that. That would shut a few guys up!
Me too. Thats my wish.
I was just tired of that Slow guy *****ing about sick time with Carl.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:02 AM
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Express, from what I gather, DFW is important to the puzzle but there are bigger first to fry in the first half of 2010. Many things have been moved around as pertains to their priority.

I was first told base in DFW on the next bid or not at all, now I am being told later in the year at the earliest. Ala, there are a few other things we need to do first.

I would love it there, and I bet we can support it, but I would be willing to bet there will be a FA base there long before a pilot base.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:09 AM
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disregard ....
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:13 AM
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Bar;
It has to do with other jets in other places, not less jets.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
A big +1 here! You should all be ashamed of yourselves for calling your fellow pilots "thieves.". WE ARE ON THE SAME SIDE. Management will steal from you at the earliest opportunity. I agree that our recently cooperative relationship with management is refreshing, but beware when our interests diverge to any significant degree (2012!!!!!!)

Remember who your friends are. I can't believe the level of management posturing I've been reading over the last few pages re: the sick policy. I don't think that anyone is advocating emptying their "insurance policy" every year, though I'm sure a very small minority will. I am fine with leaving usage up to the individual pilot to know when he/she should call in sick. We are largely responsible team players, as a group, but at the same time need to remember which team we're on.
I'm not going to chime in anymore...except this time

I suppose when I referred to other pilots as "thieves" that was far too strong and all-encompassing. I'm not talking about guys who have sick kids at home, a wife who says, "you better stay home and figure out this marriage or I'm out of here tomorrow" or someone who has gone the extra ten miles to commute to work, only to see 3 RJs cancel, followed by a blizzard in MSP. I'm talking about the following, which I actually heard on numerous occasions, especially in years past:

"I sicked out of my last trip, because I got that captain's eye disease: I just couldn't see going to work."

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"I call in sick once a quarter whether I need to or not. ******* the company."

I'm no koolaid drinker, and I'm the first to admit the far worse thievery on the management side of the house. But don't we need to be better than them?

Fact is that we had a small group of sick leave abusers--small, but unfortunately notable on the bottom line. I truly wish ALPA had found a better way to let the company hammer them, rather than just knee-jerk defending them, and then ultimately punishing ALL of us for the misactions of a few. If I fault ALPA anywhere on the sick leave thing, it is there.

And yes, I also live in the real world. Input holiday pay, and have a better commuting policy (like DAL-N premerger) and sick leave use will go down. Whether that "should" be the case or not, doesn't really matter. It is an impartial observation.
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