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Old 01-23-2010, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
As an over 40 single guy, I can only imagine the sartorial splendor you exhibit while surfing from the privacy of your home...

btw, I don't have a cubicle at "DALPA headquarters," so you probably don't have this webboard pseudonym's identity down quite yet...
Are we playing lawyer?

Maybe not a cube, but an office!

Maybe not at headquarters (8th floor) but back down on the "old" headquarders floor, or the LEC office.....

Just sayin!
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:43 PM
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Slow,

It was created and not rescinded because it benefittedmanagement with fewer cancellation and a lower percentage of reserve staffing. Doh.

Contractual is nice, but why pay for things that the Co. might want to do as policy because it's good for them, unless they want to put it in the contract without a quid
I GET THAT. How about responding to the poster that said "grow a set"...
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
What "set" did you grow? It was a management policy not contained in your contract.
Slow,

You embarrass yourself when you talk about items you know nothing about. Let me attempt to educate you:

Sick leave usage at NWA was massive. Management screamed bloody murder. Our union told them it is their own fault, by not having a policy that allowed for commuting TO work. Management said that would be impossible. Our union said fine...then expect things to continue. Management threatened and threatened, but sick leave usage continued unabated. Then management came to our union (in mid-contract) and said, let's talk. Management agreed to the policy and presto changeo, sick leave usage fell dramatically.

Now I know some will say that was just horrible of NWA pilots. I disagree. My sick leave account belonged to me. My union negotiated it and I did what I wished to do with it. Most pilots felt the same way. I thought it did show some courage/stones. You ought to try it someday Slow.

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Old 01-23-2010, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Super you juicy rumor is that TSA has been notified of DAL's intent of adding 50 flights a day in DFW.
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One other thing about Southwest's model is that they are not jumping on the bag fee bandwagon. Customers realize Southwest is $50 cheaper than whatever fare they find online for competing service. Throw in other convenience fees and my business traveler friends (same friends than used to pay $1,200 for last minute tickets on DAL) now complain LOUDLY to their Corporate Travel Departments if they are not booked on Southwest.

I argue with them that Delta is a better product and of course our network is World's better. But, for them it is the hassle factor and fees that they see as inconvenient and frankly, dishonest, sources of revenue.

I do not agree with them, just reporting how they see it. In the process of chasing $100 extra from Mom, Dad and the kids, we've alienated a lot of people who plunk down $1,000+ without batting an eye. .. and of course it is not just us.

As ACL65 said, it would be nice to flip the switch on Travelocity and Orbitz, but we have such a massive amount of product to sell that we likely need those intermediaries.
I see a catch 22 in this. We have to charge fees to keep our sale price low due to competition. Its like Applebees who'se been selling $8 burgers for 15 years, the price of coke or "pop" for you DALN folks. But when we do it then we have SWA who charges no fees and would have you believe we charge $20 for your carry on bag, your kids stroller, your kids car seat, etc. But they make their money elsewhere by no competing in the common market, orbitz and such. But then like you say Bar we've got a lot of seats to sell, you've got to be on these sites, but then you've got to hide your ticket prices.

But what business travelers aren't FFs and how many check a bag anyways? Shouldn't be as many.
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Now that's funny....

Well played, sir...

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Old 01-23-2010, 06:49 PM
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Super you juicy rumor is that TSA has been notified of DAL's intent of adding 50 flights a day in DFW.
+1 !
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:55 PM
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FtB;
1.8 billion a year is what the US Airline Industry is going to make on bag fees. They are here to stay and WN will be joining us soon. They have to.

The customer is driving these type of decisions. It makes us seem cheep but in reality people shop the first page of these on-line ticket companies. To make a profit and stay there we need to charge for everything.

I am glad that someone too the advice to charge extra to decide to check bags at the airport versus when you check in on line. That is good business.
Last night I saw a guy buy two drinks for 20 bucks a pop. (did not care that each shot in the drink was five bucks) He could have cared less. Point is passengers complain about the bag fees but they pay them and they return. That prove the point that that fee does not change their purchasing patterns.
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:55 PM
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FtB and Super, that is just what the TSA super told me this last week in DFW.
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:57 PM
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Isn't it;
Grow a pair? and Play a set?

I guess "Grow a set" works, but.......
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Business Courier of Cincinnati: Airport CEO: Name your price, Delta

The chief executive of the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport is determined to end Delta’s cutbacks and improve service at the airport this year, even going as far as seeing what kind of payments Delta Air Lines would require to restore certain flights.


Delta CEO: Expect fewer flights from CVG | cincinnati.com | Cincinnati.Com
Delta Air Lines’ top executive told local airport and business leaders that they could expect another 10-20 flights to be cut off from the current schedule during a closed-door meeting Friday, airline officials confirmed late Friday night.

Delta’s chief executive officer Richard Anderson advised top brass from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport and the Cincinnati USA Regional Chamber that they could expect to have about 160-170 daily departures through this summer, but that number shouldn’t change at least until the fall schedule.
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