NuGuy

Agreed, but 10 or 100, it still takes real money to defend.

Nu

DAL330drvr

How do we go about re-structuring ALPA, so not one penny of our dues, go to non-DAL issues? (RJ's, UAL's $44 million, etc).
You can write all you want to your Reps. and it will go nowhere.

The power is in the numbers and the only way National is going to listen is if we organize to de-certify them, then we ask for what we want.

Superdad

careful you don't cut yourself on the double edged sword. The pot of money is also used to pay things like strike benefits. I am sure that the Delta pilots could survive on their own as a stand alone union but to answer your question, a stand alone is the only way to prevent your money from flowing to non DAL issues. If you don't want to share then don't be a part of ALPA.

acl65pilot

This will chaff a lot of non-DAL pilots, but we are ALPA. Biggest pot by a long shot comes from us.

Desperado

If we're only using +/- 50% of what we're paying into alpa, it shouldn't take too long to fund our very own SCF.

Ferd149

I wondered EXACTLY the same thing when I saw this.

I didn't want to interupt the 'purely theoretical' discussion our southern brothers were having. But, you boys realize that this may have given Capt Tanksley et al new life.

Welcome to our world...............

Ferd

DAL330drvr

We have paid for the right to do as we wish, with our lost Pensions. It's time to think about us first. In a perfect world, we could re-shape ALPA National in a way that eliminates or reduces the conflict between representing you and I and representing the RJ' guys and If we could do that, and bring this profession where it belongs, everybody wins, we set the bar higher, even the career RJ CA is going to benefit. The only way we are going to be able to change National is by putting pressure on them and giving ourselves options.

The one thing I know is that doing nothing should not be an option. ALPA National is now a better career for some of our own pilots than their DAL jobs, we need tho change that and the only way we may be able to do that, is taking the attractiveness of that career away.

I think that as the pilots for the largest carrier in the country, we would definitely still have a voice in D.C.

slowplay

The south discussion wasn't purely theoretical. There's still one outstanding suit on our claim allocation (pilots who retired before the age 65 change) and one appeal from a LTD pilot on a case that was dismissed on summary judgement for ALPA by the lower court. There have been a host of other legal complaints from junior, senior, young, old and deadzoners with all resulting in no cause for action (so far).

slowplay

APA doesn't exactly have a history of success in that arena, and they were the largest pilot group for some time. Well, that's not exactly correct. They yelled loudly, but nobody listened!

sevenfiveseven

FYI, her award was lower greatly in appeal and was lowered more in an out of court settlement (total award undisclosed)