Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-21-2010, 02:09 PM
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Looks like some just got their retirement back!
01-21-2010, 02:10 PM
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I don't remember. When UAL's pension was terminated did the pilot group vote on it or was it just agreed to by the UALPA leaders and UAL?
01-21-2010, 02:15 PM
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I love trivia, so come on and give it up. What was the answer to the flaws in your and Nwa-n's arguments?
I guessed that you have a causation problem because of intervening and/ or superceding forces.
01-21-2010, 02:48 PM
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C&R #3 is the classic "no bump, no flush" language. There's a long history of what that clause means in seniority integration battles. The phrase "in and of itself" referring to the single list is where the problem comes in regarding displacements that result from management moving jets to new bases.
The NWA "ninja" claim is ridiculous on its face.
How can 777s be called "replacement jets" for 747-400s that never left the fleet? Its astounding to me that the NWA members on the DRC would vote to uphold that frivolous claim.
My suspicion is that this is the first claim and they just wanted to establish some "street cred" among the former NWA pilot group so they went ahead and forced it to arbitration. Even though they know it is doomed.
01-21-2010, 02:57 PM
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We all thought they were going to end in 2006 when the Roberts award dropped dead and they kept going... then, they went after the young guys who saved their pensions, for more and more and more...
In a perfect world, we would only get another 5 years of food fights, but then again, they didn't stop when the Roberts award dropped.
We welcome you to our dysfunctional nwa family!
Don't worry, the majority of us are normal average guys with a positive outlook in life, they are now outnumbered by a lot, and they don't have the Ice Palace in MSP protecting them anymore.
01-21-2010, 03:04 PM
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You are correct as to the "claim" I dreamed up. Its a causation problem. Mgmt is the intervening force.
C&R #3 is the classic "no bump, no flush" language. There's a long history of what that clause means in seniority integration battles. The phrase "in and of itself" referring to the single list is where the problem comes in regarding displacements that result from management moving jets to new bases.
The NWA "ninja" claim is ridiculous on its face.
How can 777s be called "replacement jets" for 747-400s that never left the fleet? Its astounding to me that the NWA members on the DRC would vote to uphold that frivolous claim.
My suspicion is that this is the first claim and they just wanted to establish some "street cred" among the former NWA pilot group so they went ahead and forced it to arbitration. Even though they know it is doomed.
C&R #3 is the classic "no bump, no flush" language. There's a long history of what that clause means in seniority integration battles. The phrase "in and of itself" referring to the single list is where the problem comes in regarding displacements that result from management moving jets to new bases.
The NWA "ninja" claim is ridiculous on its face.
How can 777s be called "replacement jets" for 747-400s that never left the fleet? Its astounding to me that the NWA members on the DRC would vote to uphold that frivolous claim.
My suspicion is that this is the first claim and they just wanted to establish some "street cred" among the former NWA pilot group so they went ahead and forced it to arbitration. Even though they know it is doomed.
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01-21-2010, 03:10 PM
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01-21-2010, 03:13 PM
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Sounds like a good time to start our own DAPA. 1% dues, and none of our dues to support non-DAL issues!
01-21-2010, 03:20 PM
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Airport officials: Plane circling Lansing is part of training exercise | lansingstatejournal.com | Lansing State Journal
Looks like our training runs on the 767 have been skurring the fine folks of LAN.
Those dang rookie pilots learning how to avoid buildings! (look at the comments and prepare to lose all hope for the future of america)
Looks like our training runs on the 767 have been skurring the fine folks of LAN.
Those dang rookie pilots learning how to avoid buildings! (look at the comments and prepare to lose all hope for the future of america)
01-21-2010, 03:37 PM
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