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Old 11-12-2008, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird
Along those lines, is it any coincidance that SWA has entered into MSP? I think not. SWA thinks that DAL will cut in MSP or they wouldn't be there imo.
Nope.........the plan is to increase. SWA has cut service in DTW over the years and while it will be a fight, the new Delta won't give up MSP either. I did lots of MDW on the 757 when they tried this with ATA a few years ago.

NWA to add flights to Chicago, match Southwest's air fares

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Old 11-12-2008, 02:36 PM
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I would doubt that Delta will cut anything in MSP because I've always heard that MSP was a high-revenue city for NWA.

It would be foolish for NWA to reduce service there - remember MSP is a hub as well, a lot of that traffic MSP-MDW might of come from Asia, the west coast or the midwest. It's not just MSP-MDW that they are serving.
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Old 11-12-2008, 04:55 PM
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In March of this year, Delta Air Lines operated 60 flights per day. In March of 2009 the schedule shows 40. Glenn can say what he wants, there has been a YOY decrease of 33% in Delta Air Lines flights.

As far as sending flights to DTW instead of CVG...yeah it makes more sense and is going to make more money, I'm not saying it doesn't make any sense to close CVG...but admit thats what your plans are!
Don't know if it will happen but if you look at pilot/base need projections for April 2009 under the "pilot resources and scheduling tab" it lists a need for both 60 CA and FO's for 76er flying. It also reduces the number of domestic 75/76 guys by an equal number so I guess they will make CVG an ER base like has been rumored. Plans can obviuosly change but the Feb needs list had no CVG ER slots.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:38 PM
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I'm curious as to what everyone thinks of this article.

Delta hub staying, shrinking | Cincinnati Enquirer | Cincinnati.Com

Kinda reading between the lines, it sounds to me as if the CVG hub is a goner once Delta and Northwest have merged their operations together. I hope I'm wrong though.
This is straight from an internal email today. Should answer the question.

Balancing CVG operations to increase profitability

We’re planning some additional restructuring to our Cincinnati hub to complement its schedules with operations at our other hubs and to improve the station’s overall profitability.
We’ll reduce the current seven-bank structure to five, starting in January, and eliminate some unprofitable late-evening flights.

There will be some reduction of frequencies, primarily in Delta Connection markets with low local passenger demand. Mainline flying will remain essentially the same, and no changes are planned for CVG’s international schedules.
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:09 PM
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This is straight from an internal email today. Should answer the question.

Balancing CVG operations to increase profitability

We’re planning some additional restructuring to our Cincinnati hub to complement its schedules with operations at our other hubs and to improve the station’s overall profitability.
We’ll reduce the current seven-bank structure to five, starting in January, and eliminate some unprofitable late-evening flights.

There will be some reduction of frequencies, primarily in Delta Connection markets with low local passenger demand. Mainline flying will remain essentially the same, and no changes are planned for CVG’s international schedules.
Typical company propaganda...

I am going to say it for the third time, numbers don't lie. Year over year MAINLINE flights are down about 33%. In March of 2008 there were 60 mainline departures out of CVG, in March of 2009 there will be 40. No other hub has seen even close a reduction as CVG. Call it whatever you want, CVG is being torn apart. Delta once had over 700 daily departures from CVG...now we are down to just over 200. Once again actual MAINLINE flights went from 60 (2 months prior to merger announcement) to 40(couple of months after merger closing). In the end its the employees of Delta Air Lines that will have to bend over and take another one for the team while Richard walks away with a little bonus of 13.6 million dollars! We have a slumping economy and we are still losing money...there is absolutely no reason he should have gotten all that money! 1.5-2 million now, the rest would have been justifiable after the first year of turning a profit!
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:12 PM
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:52 AM
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Denny;
Not sure if there will be a formal announcement or not on the 744 flying. It may come today or tomorrow if there is one. There were a few routes that were left out of this announcement and I do not know why.
Also I would start checking our March and April schedules for a/c Types. I think that you will see the a/c shift occur with out a major announcement. It is existing service with a different jet. Ala, no big deal for the flying public. They see all jets the same. Ya know!
As for CVG, and the ER bid. DAL appears to be setting something up. CVG should be on the bid with an ER base. Now how ever the SLI goes may mean a shift of that base to DTW. Either way I see the bodies for the increased flying going to CVG for the short term.(The CVG 767 base is basically DHing to ATL to do our nice four day trips. Have you seen these trips. Four days and 26+ hrs of credit!!!) There will be a lot of changes in the coming year or so. Some of it was deemed too expensive and they will wait until IAM is dealt with before they move some of the assets. But rest assured there will be airplanes all over the place.
One of the things that I have been hearing is a deal with IAM where they service our(DAL) jets in MSP, DTW, SEA and the like. Delta in turn will be allowed to have DGS service NWA jets in other cities. If this is approved by IAM it means that the major cost of the shift has been dealt with, and the original movement will be accomplished. It would save DAL millions on new employee acquisition costs.
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Old 11-13-2008, 06:59 AM
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Looks like the AE needs to be out by the end of next week for the summer 09 schedule.
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Looks like the AE needs to be out by the end of next week for the summer 09 schedule.
I still think they should wait until the SLI is done. Then they just as well wait until after Christmas. By then, they just as well wait until after New Years. And then they should just wait until after Obama takes office. Then they might as well wait until after his first 100 days to see how its going. By then we'll be in a depression and it will be a displacement bid. Fun times.

On another note, since it looks like CVG will get an ER category, how long until SLC gets one since it will be the only base without an ER category?
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:40 AM
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DAL is now down to the wire for the training as it pertains to next summer's schedule. If they do not get moving on it, we will not have enough bodies for March and April.
Also, I would venture to guess that more cities will be announced when we know the extent of the delays from Boeing.

If DAL management has its way we are looking at all ER categories in three years. SLC and LAX (where ever the 767 and 757 are eventually based) are next followed by ATL in three years or so. That way it is all one group like many of the other airlines do it. I know that I will not do it unless the reserve rules are changed. No way do I want to bid for 24 hr call outs.
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