Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-05-2010, 07:07 PM
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On a separate note, just back from training and came away with no new information except the 4th floor was hopping.
The new hotel is great and even through a free food/drink reception for us last night. Expecting cheese and beer and wound up with a beef carving station, shrimp chicken - the works plus free beer!
They're supposed to be repeating this each Mon night for the net month.
The new hotel is great and even through a free food/drink reception for us last night. Expecting cheese and beer and wound up with a beef carving station, shrimp chicken - the works plus free beer!
They're supposed to be repeating this each Mon night for the net month.
01-05-2010, 07:10 PM
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01-05-2010, 07:14 PM
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Quito isn't considered an "ocean crossing" but you should be getting international pay for the trip. Did you check your pay statement to see if it's there?
“International operation” means a flight segment to or from an airport, or between airports, located outside the contiguous 48 states of the United States. Exception: A flight segment to or from an airport located in Canada or Alaska will not be considered an international operation.
“International pay” means an hourly pay premium paid to a pilot for flight time flown in an international operation.
I think the reason the company wanted to move the Ocean Crossing line further south was that flights with an Ocean Crossing cannot be part of a domestic category (ie: 73N) so they would have to make a separate, international category of 737 pilots.
Also, in the PWA an Ocean Crossing has more rest requirements after the flight when you get back to base:
For purposes of line construction only, a pilot will be scheduled for a break-in-duty at base of at least:
a. 11 hours following a duty period that does not include an ocean crossing.
b. 18 hours following a duty period that includes an ocean crossing (subject to Section 23 M. 8.).
“International operation” means a flight segment to or from an airport, or between airports, located outside the contiguous 48 states of the United States. Exception: A flight segment to or from an airport located in Canada or Alaska will not be considered an international operation.
“International pay” means an hourly pay premium paid to a pilot for flight time flown in an international operation.
I think the reason the company wanted to move the Ocean Crossing line further south was that flights with an Ocean Crossing cannot be part of a domestic category (ie: 73N) so they would have to make a separate, international category of 737 pilots.
Also, in the PWA an Ocean Crossing has more rest requirements after the flight when you get back to base:
For purposes of line construction only, a pilot will be scheduled for a break-in-duty at base of at least:
a. 11 hours following a duty period that does not include an ocean crossing.
b. 18 hours following a duty period that includes an ocean crossing (subject to Section 23 M. 8.).
01-05-2010, 07:19 PM
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01-05-2010, 07:19 PM
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Gentlemen....the time is 2318 eastern, Mrs. Clamp just went to bed... so welcome to the Clamp show.
I've got my glass of courvoisiere (which oddly looks like a glass of milk) right here, so I'm doin real good.
Go ahead callers...
I've got my glass of courvoisiere (which oddly looks like a glass of milk) right here, so I'm doin real good.
Go ahead callers...
01-05-2010, 07:21 PM
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So 80, I've got this awkward itch....
01-05-2010, 07:22 PM
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01-05-2010, 07:23 PM
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Did you guys look at the pictures on the godfather bar website?? Two guys among the girls just scream pilot. Wish my captain took me to bars like that.
01-05-2010, 07:25 PM
seeing the large hubs...
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Bottom line: we do plenty of ocean crossings that are outside of Canada and Alaska that are not paid for international time. I'm not complaining. I flew C-141s internationally for 20 years. I get it. Just saying that if one category gets paid to fly south of the equator, then all categories should. Another issue for DALPA to enjoin.
Ocean crossings aren't connected to international pay, from what I read.
By "Ocean crossings" I mean the definition in the PWA (which is long, and I won't put the whole thing here, but this is what was changed to accomodate Quito I believe:
“Ocean crossing” means a flight segment...
to or from an airport in South America, as follows:
1) between the United States and any point further south of the equator than 3 degrees, 30 minutes south latitude on the South American continent, and
01-05-2010, 07:27 PM
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You're watching that cheerleader queen walking home from school
You know that she's just seventeen but you know that your the fool
I'm telling you you can't touch that stuff with money and a fancy car
You better take some cool advice my friend ... Learn how to play guitar
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