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12-29-2009, 09:39 AM
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People may not agree, but I think that improving the reserve system would improve the QOL for all pilots. Why? Because if the reserve system is made better, more senior people would bid it. Then, the entire category junior to that senior guy who bid reserve would essentially "move up" a number and get a better line.
12-29-2009, 09:45 AM
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Although I though Johnso29 response a bit short, I agree. All that will happen is that senior pilots will bid the long call and the junior ones will end up on SC.
I just don't think it's fair to the junior people. I mean really - like 1/3 of the reserve pilots seem to be on SC each day. You're putting the bottom 1/3 of the reserve list on permanent short call. That kind of reserve is impossible to commute to.
I just don't think it's fair to the junior people. I mean really - like 1/3 of the reserve pilots seem to be on SC each day. You're putting the bottom 1/3 of the reserve list on permanent short call. That kind of reserve is impossible to commute to.
It would be akin to Holiday pay. A senior pilot might bid the holiday off even though he doesn't have any plans just because he can. If there is a bonus, he might think twice about it. If the junior guy has to fly, at least he makes a little more.
More choices is a good thing.
12-29-2009, 09:54 AM
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In regards to reserve, I would like to see a separate bid for short and long call. A short-call line could be worth, say 79 hours and a long-call line could be worth, say 75 hours or whatever the consensus thought was fair. I think this would go a long way to easing the negatives of reserve. It would also add a little seniority into the equation.
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12-29-2009, 10:00 AM
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In regards to reserve, I would like to see a separate bid for short and long call. A short-call line could be worth, say 79 hours and a long-call line could be worth, say 75 hours or whatever the consensus thought was fair. I think this would go a long way to easing the negatives of reserve. It would also add a little seniority into the equation.
For only 4 extra hours who would wanna do that??? I know I wouldn't want to be strapped to short call for the whole month for 4 xtra hours!!!
I know what you are getting at though!
12-29-2009, 10:01 AM
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In regards to reserve, I would like to see a separate bid for short and long call. A short-call line could be worth, say 79 hours and a long-call line could be worth, say 75 hours or whatever the consensus thought was fair. I think this would go a long way to easing the negatives of reserve. It would also add a little seniority into the equation.
Well one thing I think would happen is it would reduce the companies flexibility. What you're suggesting is that the company determines how many long call/short call guys they need for the whole month. I don't think they can do that. It won't allow them as much flexibility in the reserve system.
At NW, long call was awarded on a day to day basis but the ratio of long calls to short calls changed on a day to day basis. So how would you determine the amount of short calls/long calls you need each month?
12-29-2009, 10:08 AM
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It stinks because if I'm on reserve I don't want more then 6 SC's a month. 
If we divide it and then I'm too junior to get long call then I am stuck on SC in base away from my family.
With the current system LC & SC are shared. If someone is senior enough to hold a line, but chooses to bid reserve then that's their choice. For guys that are too jr to hold a line, the shared LC/SC is more fair and provides some QOL for those that are too junior to hold a line.
If we divide it and then I'm too junior to get long call then I am stuck on SC in base away from my family.
With the current system LC & SC are shared. If someone is senior enough to hold a line, but chooses to bid reserve then that's their choice. For guys that are too jr to hold a line, the shared LC/SC is more fair and provides some QOL for those that are too junior to hold a line.
12-29-2009, 10:12 AM
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It stinks because if I'm on reserve I don't want more then 6 SC's a month.
If we divide it and then I'm too junior to get long call then I am stuck on SC in base away from my family.
With the current system LC & SC are shared. If someone is senior enough to hold a line, but chooses to bid reserve then that's their choice. For guys that are too jr to hold a line, the shares LC/SC is more fair and provides some QOL for those that are too junior to hold a line.
If we divide it and then I'm too junior to get long call then I am stuck on SC in base away from my family.
With the current system LC & SC are shared. If someone is senior enough to hold a line, but chooses to bid reserve then that's their choice. For guys that are too jr to hold a line, the shares LC/SC is more fair and provides some QOL for those that are too junior to hold a line.
And for international that could be 12 days on SC already.... I agree on the sharing of the SC days and I think most would... Just wish the first day of on call it would have to start at like noon or something!
12-29-2009, 10:15 AM
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Not so fast. If short-call is worth more than long-call it could balance out. The trick is to find the right balance.
It would be akin to Holiday pay. A senior pilot might bid the holiday off even though he doesn't have any plans just because he can. If there is a bonus, he might think twice about it. If the junior guy has to fly, at least he makes a little more.
More choices is a good thing.
It would be akin to Holiday pay. A senior pilot might bid the holiday off even though he doesn't have any plans just because he can. If there is a bonus, he might think twice about it. If the junior guy has to fly, at least he makes a little more.
More choices is a good thing.
Plus, can't a senior pilot bid reserve under the current system for 5 more hours above guarantee?
12-29-2009, 10:15 AM
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12-29-2009, 10:18 AM
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