johnso29

alfa or anyone who knows, could you please explain how we came about to the current pay distribution system? Why do we get the smaller check based on YOS followed by the larger check including overs and per diem?

Was this something the pilots asked for? Or was this a result of BK? I prefer the two even checks rather then a small and big check, but maybe I'm missing something advantageous to the current system? This is a question of curiousity.


Killing time until the AE results are posted.

Justdoinmyjob

Been that way since before I was hired in '01 so it's not BK related.

Herkflyr

As you will undoubtedly learn, at DAL "that's how we done always done it, and don't you Yankees tell us otherwise!"

It may have made sense in earlier years, but it has never been indexed to inflation in the 13 years I've been here. A $1000 bring-home end of month paycheck might have been quite reasonable 20 years ago--it is a bit dicey these days.

johnso29

Thanks


Agreed. It's causing some heartache as I figure out how to re-balance my monthly payments.

Dirtdiver

Thanks, finally a voice of reason. I've spent a lot of time on reserve on the old system, and the past two years under the new system. While there's certainly things to improve, I prefer the new.

Seniority certainly is honored. On the initial bid, X day moves, and trip assignments within your grouping of days.

The only place it isn't honored seems to be short call assignment. Sure seems like that could be treated just like trip assignments, but beware what you wish for. It may cause them to put more of us on SC per day. How, you ask? Pilot A, the junior guy just flew 29.5 block hours and has 3 days left. Pilot B hasn't flown and has 3 days left. Currently they would likely put just B on SC (causing him to go on APC and rant). Strictly honoring seniority would force them to put both A and B on SC since A is virtually unusable, but B can't be put on the short leash first. Similar problems in a category with a lot of special qual airports/theaters.

The thing that's a no-brainer, needs to be fixed item is 24 hour international short call. Or at least credit for any calendar day it touches.

BusDrvr

In regards to reserve, I would like to see a separate bid for short and long call. A short-call line could be worth, say 79 hours and a long-call line could be worth, say 75 hours or whatever the consensus thought was fair. I think this would go a long way to easing the negatives of reserve. It would also add a little seniority into the equation.

johnso29

STINKS!!!

iaflyer

People may not agree, but I think that improving the reserve system would improve the QOL for all pilots. Why? Because if the reserve system is made better, more senior people would bid it. Then, the entire category junior to that senior guy who bid reserve would essentially "move up" a number and get a better line.

BusDrvr

What stinks about it?

iaflyer

Although I though Johnso29 response a bit short, I agree. All that will happen is that senior pilots will bid the long call and the junior ones will end up on SC.

I just don't think it's fair to the junior people. I mean really - like 1/3 of the reserve pilots seem to be on SC each day. You're putting the bottom 1/3 of the reserve list on permanent short call. That kind of reserve is impossible to commute to.