Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-28-2009, 11:58 AM
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A RAW score is a number assigned to reserves. I'm not sure what the acronym stand for, but it's something like "Reserve Availability ..." Someone here will probably know.
Basically, at the beginning of the month everyone starts at zero and the number goes up the more you fly. There are apparently other factors that influence the number, but I'm not sure what they are. Time flown is the biggest factor in determining your score.
The purpose of the RAW score is to spread the reserve flying equally as possible. The company doesn't want someone to go over guarantee while another is sitting at home having hardly flown. So the person with the lower RAW score would get a trip before someone with a higher score, because by definition, that person hasn't flown as much that month. That way, you don't have someone with 90 hours for the month and another with only 20 hours.
If you really want to fly, you can lower your RAW score by 15 points. You go to PCS, then slip requests to do that. Be aware that by doing this, you are really submitting a yellow slip, so all the YS rules rules regarding trip assignments apply.
Basically, at the beginning of the month everyone starts at zero and the number goes up the more you fly. There are apparently other factors that influence the number, but I'm not sure what they are. Time flown is the biggest factor in determining your score.
The purpose of the RAW score is to spread the reserve flying equally as possible. The company doesn't want someone to go over guarantee while another is sitting at home having hardly flown. So the person with the lower RAW score would get a trip before someone with a higher score, because by definition, that person hasn't flown as much that month. That way, you don't have someone with 90 hours for the month and another with only 20 hours.
If you really want to fly, you can lower your RAW score by 15 points. You go to PCS, then slip requests to do that. Be aware that by doing this, you are really submitting a yellow slip, so all the YS rules rules regarding trip assignments apply.
12-28-2009, 12:07 PM
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Ok I would have to agree with you looking at the contract compared to the "When schedluing calls"
23.S.9
1)is designated by Crew Scheduling,
2) does not exceed
a) 12 hours in domestic categories, or
b) 24 hours in international categories. Note: An international category pilot who has been on short call for 12 hours will not be assigned a domestic rotation with a scheduled report earlier than nine hours after notification.
The only thing I can think of is that the contract is referring to one SC period and we are talking about two consecutive periods.
Ok I would have to agree with you looking at the contract compared to the "When schedluing calls"
23.S.9
1)is designated by Crew Scheduling,
2) does not exceed
a) 12 hours in domestic categories, or
b) 24 hours in international categories. Note: An international category pilot who has been on short call for 12 hours will not be assigned a domestic rotation with a scheduled report earlier than nine hours after notification.
The only thing I can think of is that the contract is referring to one SC period and we are talking about two consecutive periods.
12-28-2009, 12:14 PM
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23.S.9
1)is designated by Crew Scheduling,
2) does not exceed
a) 12 hours in domestic categories, or
b) 24 hours in international categories. Note: An international category pilot who has been on short call for 12 hours will not be assigned a domestic rotation with a scheduled report earlier than nine hours after notification.
The only thing I can think of is that the contract is referring to one SC period and we are talking about two consecutive periods.
1)is designated by Crew Scheduling,
2) does not exceed
a) 12 hours in domestic categories, or
b) 24 hours in international categories. Note: An international category pilot who has been on short call for 12 hours will not be assigned a domestic rotation with a scheduled report earlier than nine hours after notification.
The only thing I can think of is that the contract is referring to one SC period and we are talking about two consecutive periods.
A short call pilot will remain on short call for a period that is designated by Crew Scheduling, and does not exceed 12 hours in domestic categories, or 24 hours in international categories.
I can't see how scheduling can say that he's on SC for only 24 hours. SATchip is scheduled to start SC at 1500 on the 28th, and end at 1500 on the 30th. Looks like 48 hours to me.
I posted a note in the ALPA forum for Scrappy - he's usually quick but he may be doing something else.
12-28-2009, 12:54 PM
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12-28-2009, 01:10 PM
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hey guys quick question do you know how many seats go unused from GRU to ATL during High Season?
thanks
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12-28-2009, 01:25 PM
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Fact is it won't be a much better predictor than the current "pilots in category senior to you bidding" tool.
Way easier and more fair to bid what you want and be ready to fly what you bid and let seniority rule.....
12-28-2009, 02:23 PM
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I see what you mean, but that section of the contract isn't talking about credit for SC - it just says (if you take out the line breaks):
A short call pilot will remain on short call for a period that is designated by Crew Scheduling, and does not exceed 12 hours in domestic categories, or 24 hours in international categories.
I can't see how scheduling can say that he's on SC for only 24 hours. SATchip is scheduled to start SC at 1500 on the 28th, and end at 1500 on the 30th. Looks like 48 hours to me.
I posted a note in the ALPA forum for Scrappy - he's usually quick but he may be doing something else.
A short call pilot will remain on short call for a period that is designated by Crew Scheduling, and does not exceed 12 hours in domestic categories, or 24 hours in international categories.
I can't see how scheduling can say that he's on SC for only 24 hours. SATchip is scheduled to start SC at 1500 on the 28th, and end at 1500 on the 30th. Looks like 48 hours to me.
I posted a note in the ALPA forum for Scrappy - he's usually quick but he may be doing something else.
You guys got the answer right. Scheduling can give you back to back int'l SC, but they have to show you on rest for 10 hours (8 hrs rest plus 2 hrs report) before the second or subsequent. The computer will not allow them to put two 24 hr blocks back to back. If that has happened, someone manually overrode something.
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would like back to back intl sc when I'm on reserve. Fewer commutes, better rest, same hotel bill.
12-28-2009, 02:44 PM
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As soon as the results of a hypothetical practice bid are published a lot of pilots will change their bids, then when the actual comes out and looks nothing like the practice bid results, those that didn't get what they expected will howl about it's inaccuracy, and those that could of gotten something but didn't bid it because of the practice bid will howl about it's inaccuracy.
Fact is it won't be a much better predictor than the current "pilots in category senior to you bidding" tool.
Way easier and more fair to bid what you want and be ready to fly what you bid and let seniority rule.....
Fact is it won't be a much better predictor than the current "pilots in category senior to you bidding" tool.
Way easier and more fair to bid what you want and be ready to fly what you bid and let seniority rule.....
This is exactly why I had an issue with Professor's rant. Here is someone talking about running for rep, and asking indignant (but completely useless) questions.
Some people have latched on to a cause a cause, raised awareness, then gotten traction via forums, and established themselves as credible candidates for office. I have no problem with it. I have a problem with people throwing embarassing tantrums in public, and hoping that whining equates to a platform.
12-28-2009, 03:11 PM
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Very funny. In the end though.. it was either a very weak publicity thing.. or another example of New Coke. Damage control must be in full afterburner in Gainesville.
12-28-2009, 03:15 PM
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