Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-19-2009, 05:06 AM
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I'm reminded of the old saw about "The bigger they are . . ."
I also find it a bit surreal that DAL can lose money, have projections of losing even more money next year, and be part of an entire industry projected to lose multiple billions next year, yet still negotiate a multi-billion dollar deal.
I also find it a bit surreal that DAL can lose money, have projections of losing even more money next year, and be part of an entire industry projected to lose multiple billions next year, yet still negotiate a multi-billion dollar deal.
12-19-2009, 05:12 AM
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12-19-2009, 05:20 AM
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I can understand that, but from what I hear about the MD90 (I only fly the MD88--ATL based), it really isn't your typical DC9. I see A330 FOs wanting to go to the A320/19, but what about 755 FOs? The MD90 has some magic, plus power, and really isn't a DC9. Maybe I should bid the left seat if no FNWA guys are going to bid it.
Bill,
I agree with some of the earlier posts. For the most part, the North widebody FO's are a little different and they want no parts of domestic flying. Of course, this is not how all of them feel. But most of the ones I talk to don't even want to fly the left of the 320, let alone the -88/90 or the -9.
I'd be more apt to bid the -90 if I knew what trips it was going to fly and what I could hold. (how do we find out what they are planning on doing with that tihing out of MSP?) But, I am real hesitant to get frozen in MSP for two years. (That was just luck)
I'm also worried that it's possible that you could go into a position in this AE at let's say 80%, but then with the next AE, you could wind up at 95%. So, at this point, I have no idea of what I will do.
It's not just me though. If you walk around the terminal in DTW and MSP, you will see North guys in groups of 3-4, gathered together to try to figure out what to do with the first big AE.
Good thing APC is here.
I agree with some of the earlier posts. For the most part, the North widebody FO's are a little different and they want no parts of domestic flying. Of course, this is not how all of them feel. But most of the ones I talk to don't even want to fly the left of the 320, let alone the -88/90 or the -9.
I'd be more apt to bid the -90 if I knew what trips it was going to fly and what I could hold. (how do we find out what they are planning on doing with that tihing out of MSP?) But, I am real hesitant to get frozen in MSP for two years. (That was just luck)
I'm also worried that it's possible that you could go into a position in this AE at let's say 80%, but then with the next AE, you could wind up at 95%. So, at this point, I have no idea of what I will do.
It's not just me though. If you walk around the terminal in DTW and MSP, you will see North guys in groups of 3-4, gathered together to try to figure out what to do with the first big AE.
Good thing APC is here.
Quoted for Gospel.
There are guys out there who live for the WB scene. Thats all they know, that's all they want to know. They enjoy the breakfast club in NRT, the Green Awning, the Spiral Staircase and the Jet Lag Club. Many have deals on the side, either back home or in Asia.
Some guys live out there already. Some work the DHs so they never come farther to MSP than the west coast other than for CQ.
Some will bite the bullet for an "A" slot, but vast majority can make the same bank for a ton less work and hassle doing what they're doing and not getting their "hands dirty".
Nu
There are guys out there who live for the WB scene. Thats all they know, that's all they want to know. They enjoy the breakfast club in NRT, the Green Awning, the Spiral Staircase and the Jet Lag Club. Many have deals on the side, either back home or in Asia.
Some guys live out there already. Some work the DHs so they never come farther to MSP than the west coast other than for CQ.
Some will bite the bullet for an "A" slot, but vast majority can make the same bank for a ton less work and hassle doing what they're doing and not getting their "hands dirty".
Nu
And to add further, I've seen DC9 A's LEAVE the left seat for a WB right seat so they could fly less.
12-19-2009, 05:29 AM
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Bill,
I agree with some of the earlier posts. For the most part, the North widebody FO's are a little different and they want no parts of domestic flying. Of course, this is not how all of them feel. But most of the ones I talk to don't even want to fly the left of the 320, let alone the -88/90 or the -9.
I'd be more apt to bid the -90 if I knew what trips it was going to fly and what I could hold. (how do we find out what they are planning on doing with that tihing out of MSP?) But, I am real hesitant to get frozen in MSP for two years. (That was just luck)
I'm also worried that it's possible that you could go into a position in this AE at let's say 80%, but then with the next AE, you could wind up at 95%. So, at this point, I have no idea of what I will do.
It's not just me though. If you walk around the terminal in DTW and MSP, you will see North guys in groups of 3-4, gathered together to try to figure out what to do with the first big AE.
Good thing APC is here.
I agree with some of the earlier posts. For the most part, the North widebody FO's are a little different and they want no parts of domestic flying. Of course, this is not how all of them feel. But most of the ones I talk to don't even want to fly the left of the 320, let alone the -88/90 or the -9.
I'd be more apt to bid the -90 if I knew what trips it was going to fly and what I could hold. (how do we find out what they are planning on doing with that tihing out of MSP?) But, I am real hesitant to get frozen in MSP for two years. (That was just luck)
I'm also worried that it's possible that you could go into a position in this AE at let's say 80%, but then with the next AE, you could wind up at 95%. So, at this point, I have no idea of what I will do.
It's not just me though. If you walk around the terminal in DTW and MSP, you will see North guys in groups of 3-4, gathered together to try to figure out what to do with the first big AE.
Good thing APC is here.
12-19-2009, 05:31 AM
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12-19-2009, 05:54 AM
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12-19-2009, 05:57 AM
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I'm wondering this too because my reinstatement box on the AE preferences asks me if i want to reinstate to MEM320B? Does this mean that i have first rights to MEM? Or does it just mean I have rights to reinstate to the Bus in general? You'd think if it was just for the bus in general they wouldnt ask if i wanted reinstatement rights to MEM320B. I bid all of the bases anyway because the base doesnt matter to me very much since I commute out of a commuter friendly city.
Satchip, I already told you, if you end up in MEM and i'm still around we can go to Rendezvous and grab some BBQ and talk football. It would be great, I'll bring my photo album from my trip to the National Championship Game!!
Oh and dont forget, when we go to bus training, You and I are going to pull the father son game at Hooters inside the Mall of America! I figure we can pull it off at least 2 times a week when shift change occurs
Also, Dress Warm, MSP in the Springtime is redonkulously cold......
Satchip, I already told you, if you end up in MEM and i'm still around we can go to Rendezvous and grab some BBQ and talk football. It would be great, I'll bring my photo album from my trip to the National Championship Game!!
Oh and dont forget, when we go to bus training, You and I are going to pull the father son game at Hooters inside the Mall of America! I figure we can pull it off at least 2 times a week when shift change occurs
Also, Dress Warm, MSP in the Springtime is redonkulously cold...... 2) I believe ACL is right, MEM 320 B. It'd make sense, a junior pilot in NYC ER can't be MD'd and then be reinstated to a more senior position in ATL 7ER.
Section 22 F
9. Normally, pilots who hold:
a. VDs will be scheduled for training in seniority order prior to pilots who hold MDs from the same posting and from the same category.
b. MDs from the same posting and from the same category will be scheduled for training in inverse seniority order.
10. A pilot will receive at least 30 days advance notice from the Company of the conversion date of his displacement.
11. The Company will not rescind a displacement within the 30 days before its conversion date without the consent of the pilot.
12. A pilot who holds an MD will, without regard to the standing bids of senior pilots, be reinstated to the category from which he was displaced if:
a. a vacancy is posted in such category and the earliest conversion date stated in the posting is within the 180 day period following the conversion date of his MD,
b. his standing bid indicates a request for such reinstatement, and
c. such vacancy has not been filled by reinstatement of a pilot senior to him who was also awarded an MD from such category.
Note: A former NWA pilot who held return or reinstatement rights pursuant to the provisions of Section 24.E.10. of the NWA CBA on the day prior to October 30, 2008 will retain these rights subject to the following provisions:... Section 22 F...
Definitions from Section 22:
7. “Category” means the combination of a pilot’s position and base.
12-19-2009, 06:14 AM
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FtB;
Thanks for looking it up. I had not had time to quote the PWA.
Thanks for looking it up. I had not had time to quote the PWA.
12-19-2009, 06:25 AM
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Just wanted to prove how right you were. You make it look easy.
I wish I could post some pictures my brother just sent from Roanoke VA. Holy cow, its like an easy 2 feet of snow overnight. Lots of 23Ks this weekend.
You make it look easy. I wish I could post some pictures my brother just sent from Roanoke VA. Holy cow, its like an easy 2 feet of snow overnight. Lots of 23Ks this weekend.
12-19-2009, 06:32 AM
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Why not make it match our dispatch rules?
It seems like the "International" definition changed at the same time we made the 737-700 & 800 one category. Is that right?
Lets bring on 400 to 500 new hires, use the widebodies and 757's in Asia and stop worrying about who's going to fly narrow bodies out of MSP and JFK
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