Check Essential

I just spoke with one of our MEC reps. They are all over this situation.

Chairman Moak has been in numerous meetings with Richard Anderson and the two of them have already come up with a proposed solution that will allow Delta to share in the Trans-Pacific market with JAL.
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Doug Masters

That'd be funny if I didn't believe they would try it

acl65pilot

Wow a photo shop on Sunday AM. Man you must have had your coffee!

I like it though, maybe that should be my new Pic......

TANSTAAFL

OK.....hard to see the wink or the nod via this venue I'm trying to figure out who is who around here. So you are saying Slow, Sailing, PG are on the MEC or closely tied to it?

Superpilot92

after studying this photo and comparing the CRJesq aircraft to the 747, i've come to the conclusion that the "CRJ" must be some new Uber CRJ. I call left seat

acl65pilot

I not saying they are MEC members. They have valuable insight to the way the MEC is thinking, and how they view things.

I do not think the MEC guys would get on here.

Check Essential

You are correct.
The NWA members of the MEC call that one a "Super-Premium" CRJ.

Here's a better perspective:

Superpilot92

I thought so, thanks for the clarification

slowplay

Ahh, the classic class warfare..... How about never forgetting or misrepresenting Delta pilots. NEVER.

There are a host of bad assumptions in this thread.

First, there are over 3800 pilots flying out of Atlanta. Last number I saw only showed 2100 living withing a 2 hour driving radius. That means 1700 would be considered "commuters". Also, all those "senior" guys that you try to start class warfare with have seen the closing on the southside of BOS, MIA, MCO, ORD, IAH, DFW, MSY, SFO, PDX, SEA during the last 20 years. The North guys have a similar story. During that time there has also been a substantial reallocation of equipment from base to base that has caused a lot of displacements, many of which were during economic recession.

Second, the majority of the "ALPA guys" either are commuters or have in the past. The current MEC Chairman, Vice-Chairman, Treasurer, Secretary, Transition Coordinator, Negotiating Committee Chairman and two members, Comm Chair, etc, are all commuters and most were prior to doing ALPA work. I'm guessing they don't hate commuters as they are commuters.

Third, while this AE reduces the number of widebody seats in ATL, it's not the first time base realignment has happened. While mitigated by pilot retirements, Atlanta saw a very quick reduction in only partially replaced widebody positions when we parked the 56 TriStars and 15 MD-11's, replacing them with 21 767-400's and 7 777.

Fourth, PG is right regarding sick leave. It's for when you're sick, not for when you can't commute. Both north and south took huge sick leave hits in bankruptcy. Guess what, when we got less sick leave and/or were paid less for it, it's use went WAY down. That's a direct cost (savings) to the contract, and ignoring or excusing the use of sick leave as platinum days/commuter protection ignores that it costs (and did cost) all of us. For the whiners on this point, calling people "management stooges" for pointing out the facts reflects a lack of integrity and ignores the reality that we've been through.

Fifth, the group here is really good at attacking each other while ignoring the elephant in the room. Because of the reasons above, I'm very interested in seeing an "enhanced" commuter policy (I've been displaced just about as often as I've seen "entitlements" in my time here). That said, all the "pro-commuter" arguments in the world will fail when Congress panders and legislates a commuting policy based on the Colgan crash. What certain Senators want is draconian, and they don't appear to care that you're updside down in your house, have a sick family member, or a wife with a good job. They believe it is a choice.... It's not close to a done deal, but look at last week's Senate Aviation Safety hearing for what some of the rulemakers are thinking.

tsquare

Ahem... Mr. Ingram did not see the end zone against THE UT either. But congrats nonetheless...

Great paragraph. The hypeman is as relevant as the Nobel. The only exception I will utter wrt this statement is that Herschel did deserve it when he got it.. IMO. And the funny thing about Tebow is that they have been touting that he broke Herschel's TD record.. the same number of TDs that Herschel got in 3 years... not counting(HW's) post season either. Tebow...a great kid, no doubt.. is a HUGE beneficiary of a media lovefest, and I am not so sure that he would be deserving of any "lifetime" award either.( Probably more deserving of the Nobel in all honesty than BHO) He was exposed this year to a degree that without Harvin, he is an average passer at best... but a good runner. I do wonder how well he would do with a less talented team of big uglies clearing his path.