Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
tell that to all the guys who lived in Dallas when they closed the base. A good commuter policy is worth your effort too. In this industry EVERYONE will commute sooner or later.
No, you've got to grow up. Name another job where you make a six figure income and when promotions (or demotions) come, you aren't expected to often have to move all over the country. Name another job where you can make a six figure income in Atlanta, GA, while living full time in Madison Wisconsin, all the time whining that your medical care in Madison Wisconsin isn't as good as it used to be, now that your company is headquartered in Georgia.
And not one Atlanta local will be forced to commute. There are already plenty of commuters based in Atlanta who can keep chasing the money if they want to. Life is full of choices. If you don't want to uproot your family, fine, bid an airplane in Atlanta you can hold. If you are truly too junior to hold anything in Atlanta, then commuting may be a necessary evil, but very few pilots will fall into that category. Very few. I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.
And not one Atlanta local will be forced to commute. There are already plenty of commuters based in Atlanta who can keep chasing the money if they want to. Life is full of choices. If you don't want to uproot your family, fine, bid an airplane in Atlanta you can hold. If you are truly too junior to hold anything in Atlanta, then commuting may be a necessary evil, but very few pilots will fall into that category. Very few. I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.
This isn't even worth a response.... perfectly illustrates how far your head is in the sand, even in regards to former South guys. (re: DFW...)
No, you've got to grow up. Name another job where you make a six figure income and when promotions (or demotions) come, you aren't expected to often have to move all over the country. Name another job where you can make a six figure income in Atlanta, GA, while living full time in Madison Wisconsin, all the time whining that your medical care in Madison Wisconsin isn't as good as it used to be, now that your company is headquartered in Georgia.
And not one Atlanta local will be forced to commute. There are already plenty of commuters based in Atlanta who can keep chasing the money if they want to. Life is full of choices. If you don't want to uproot your family, fine, bid an airplane in Atlanta you can hold. If you are truly too junior to hold anything in Atlanta, then commuting may be a necessary evil, but very few pilots will fall into that category. Very few. I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.
And not one Atlanta local will be forced to commute. There are already plenty of commuters based in Atlanta who can keep chasing the money if they want to. Life is full of choices. If you don't want to uproot your family, fine, bid an airplane in Atlanta you can hold. If you are truly too junior to hold anything in Atlanta, then commuting may be a necessary evil, but very few pilots will fall into that category. Very few. I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.
insert above is the problem with our industry, ME ME ME.
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The commuter policy at NWA while better then Delta's was a flight ops policy and could be revoked on any whim of management. The fact it was not contractual and not in the NWA contract is one reason we were not able to bring it over with the merger.
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Feel free to flame away - that's what we do! Sorry, but this DID cost the company money, meaning it DID cost us negotiating capital, meaning I got less of something somewhere, because somebody got pay protected. THAT'S my beef. Just like an overly generous commuting policy, or overly generous sick leave that encourages abuse, or overly generous LTD benefits that went on forever (in the old days)! All of that stuff costs non-commuting honest pilots a lot of money in the long run.
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Pineapple guy......careful what you say...might turn the commuting gods against you
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The statement in the latest FOM is the same one we have always had for the south concerning commutes. It is not however a flight ops policy. It is a contractual right that is written in the contract.
The commuter policy at NWA while better then Delta's was a flight ops policy and could be revoked on any whim of management. The fact it was not contractual and not in the NWA contract is one reason we were not able to bring it over with the merger.
The commuter policy at NWA while better then Delta's was a flight ops policy and could be revoked on any whim of management. The fact it was not contractual and not in the NWA contract is one reason we were not able to bring it over with the merger.
This is exactly why we shouldn't have to spend a dime of negotiating on it. The company is gonna get hosed with guys getting stuck...
No, you've got to grow up. Name another job where you make a six figure income and when promotions (or demotions) come, you aren't expected to often have to move all over the country. Name another job where you can make a six figure income in Atlanta, GA, while living full time in Madison Wisconsin, all the time whining that your medical care in Madison Wisconsin isn't as good as it used to be, now that your company is headquartered in Georgia.
And not one Atlanta local will be forced to commute. There are already plenty of commuters based in Atlanta who can keep chasing the money if they want to. Life is full of choices. If you don't want to uproot your family, fine, bid an airplane in Atlanta you can hold. If you are truly too junior to hold anything in Atlanta, then commuting may be a necessary evil, but very few pilots will fall into that category. Very few. I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.
And not one Atlanta local will be forced to commute. There are already plenty of commuters based in Atlanta who can keep chasing the money if they want to. Life is full of choices. If you don't want to uproot your family, fine, bid an airplane in Atlanta you can hold. If you are truly too junior to hold anything in Atlanta, then commuting may be a necessary evil, but very few pilots will fall into that category. Very few. I'm willing to cut them some slack and even give a reasonable commuting policy but as for the rest -- forget it. Don't make ME have to pay so others can live in East Bumble and commute to wherever.
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Pineapple:
And what's with labeling non-commuters "honest"? Seriously man? Are you somehow implying commuters are dishonest? May be a stretch on my part but that is a pretty ignorant statement and I don't really understand where you are trying to go with that.
And what's with labeling non-commuters "honest"? Seriously man? Are you somehow implying commuters are dishonest? May be a stretch on my part but that is a pretty ignorant statement and I don't really understand where you are trying to go with that.
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