Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-11-2009, 10:58 AM
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12-11-2009, 11:04 AM
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A pilot’s bid preference for an AE will not be awarded if the award, together with any VD/MD(s) for the same category, would create a surplus that would cause a displacement in the category. In other words, a pilot’s VD or MD bid into a category will supersede a more senior pilot’s AE bid to that category.
What is the above highlighed intent and purposes?? Let's say i'm being MDed out of SLC88, are you saying my MD bid to SLC320 will supersede a more senior pilot's AE bid into SLC320?? I thought since SLC320 is a new category with an AE bid, it's open season for all pilots. Thx.
12-11-2009, 11:06 AM
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1. Gone with the AE
2. Invasion of the NYC/MSP Body Snatchers
3. SAW IX: AE 29DEC09
4. Bad Company
5. There Will Be ATL Blood
6. Sherman Marches Again
7. Pilot Interrupted
8. Crash
9. No Bid for Old Men
10. The Silence of the Scope Hawks
11. Tears of Advanced Entitlement
2. Invasion of the NYC/MSP Body Snatchers
3. SAW IX: AE 29DEC09
4. Bad Company
5. There Will Be ATL Blood
6. Sherman Marches Again
7. Pilot Interrupted
8. Crash
9. No Bid for Old Men
10. The Silence of the Scope Hawks
11. Tears of Advanced Entitlement
12-11-2009, 11:07 AM
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I always thought that if you're MDed, you'll be bumped to whatever your seniority can hold, period.
What is the above highlighed intent and purposes?? Let's say i'm being MDed out of SLC88, are you saying my MD bid to SLC320 will supersede a more senior pilot's AE bid into SLC320?? I thought since SLC320 is a new category with an AE bid, it's open season for all pilots. Thx.
What is the above highlighed intent and purposes?? Let's say i'm being MDed out of SLC88, are you saying my MD bid to SLC320 will supersede a more senior pilot's AE bid into SLC320?? I thought since SLC320 is a new category with an AE bid, it's open season for all pilots. Thx.
Its up to the smart people to explain.
12-11-2009, 11:18 AM
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Notice that these are the following A320 displacements:
DTW 320Capt 3
MSP 320Capt 15
=============
320Capt = 18
320F/o = 0 [?]
Now here are the Advancements:
DTW 320f/o 3
MEM 320f/o 4
MSP 320f/o 4
SLC 320Capt 105
SLC 320f/o 111
=============
320 Capt = 105
320 F/o = 122
So +87 captain positions
and +122 F/O positions.
Where are all the new A320's coming from, or are they fat stacking it that much?
DTW 320Capt 3
MSP 320Capt 15
=============
320Capt = 18
320F/o = 0 [?]
Now here are the Advancements:
DTW 320f/o 3
MEM 320f/o 4
MSP 320f/o 4
SLC 320Capt 105
SLC 320f/o 111
=============
320 Capt = 105
320 F/o = 122
So +87 captain positions
and +122 F/O positions.
Where are all the new A320's coming from, or are they fat stacking it that much?
12-11-2009, 11:18 AM
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A330 Bases
From the Bid Posting Recap:
"The 330-200 rest bunk modifications are currently planned to start in the first quarter 2011.oWe will maintain our current basing until we receive more direction from Network on which markets the 12 hour plus 330-200 aircraft will serve."
It looks like there won't be any changes to 330 bases until late next year or 2011.
Keep in mind that there are only 11 A330-200's.
"The 330-200 rest bunk modifications are currently planned to start in the first quarter 2011.oWe will maintain our current basing until we receive more direction from Network on which markets the 12 hour plus 330-200 aircraft will serve."
It looks like there won't be any changes to 330 bases until late next year or 2011.
Keep in mind that there are only 11 A330-200's.
12-11-2009, 11:18 AM
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newKnow,
DTW gained jobs. I was writing about the economic impact story. But with your temerity, you failed to notice. Glad you have a First Officer to keep out of the weeds. Of course with your pleasant demeanor you should expect to hear only the checklists and only then as a response. Besides, you'll be able to bid those 777 positions sooner than you think.
Thik I'll take a break and go push dumbells around literally rather than figuratively.
DTW gained jobs. I was writing about the economic impact story. But with your temerity, you failed to notice. Glad you have a First Officer to keep out of the weeds. Of course with your pleasant demeanor you should expect to hear only the checklists and only then as a response. Besides, you'll be able to bid those 777 positions sooner than you think.
Thik I'll take a break and go push dumbells around literally rather than figuratively.
I can see where I was using the wrong numbers, so for that, I apologize. DTW did gain jobs, but it looks like every other base, with the exception of LAX and ATL gained position-wise and money-wise.
But, let's be clear here. You can say you were writing about the economic impact story, but when your post opens up with, "the other angle to this is f-DAL bases are taking a big pay cut while f-NWA bases are getting a windfall," you are once again painting the merger to be a nightmare for the D-South and a free-for-all for D-North. Ignoring the other f-DAL bases that are not taking a paycut. Ignoring the f-DAL base that came out pretty good in the deal.
If I'm still reading the numbers wrong, besides ATL, which f-DAL bases are taking a big paycut? Why is NYC not getting a big windfall as well? Why did you choose to paint your story in a way that implies that all the f-DAL bases were taking an economic hit and none of them made any economic gain? Help me out here, since you seem to think I need a good first officer to keep me out of the weeds.
New K Now
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12-11-2009, 11:19 AM
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1. Gone with the AE
2. Invasion of the NYC/MSP Body Snatchers
3. SAW IX: AE 29DEC09
4. Bad Company
5. There Will Be ATL Blood
6. Sherman Marches Again
7. Pilot Interrupted
8. Crash
9. No Bid for Old Men
10. The Silence of the Scope Hawks
11. Tears of Advanced Entitlement
12. The Hunt For White October
13. Terminator V: The Rise of the Snowblowers
2. Invasion of the NYC/MSP Body Snatchers
3. SAW IX: AE 29DEC09
4. Bad Company
5. There Will Be ATL Blood
6. Sherman Marches Again
7. Pilot Interrupted
8. Crash
9. No Bid for Old Men
10. The Silence of the Scope Hawks
11. Tears of Advanced Entitlement
12. The Hunt For White October
13. Terminator V: The Rise of the Snowblowers
12-11-2009, 11:19 AM
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Bingo!
What's overstaffed anyway? If you are flying 10-20 hours on reserve and people can take personal leaves - is that overstaffed? I think it's just right.
Or when lines are 87 hours and reserves are flying till they are illegal - is that understaffed or still a little overstaffed? At some airlines it is the norm.
I am sure glad I am not there anymore
What's overstaffed anyway? If you are flying 10-20 hours on reserve and people can take personal leaves - is that overstaffed? I think it's just right.
Or when lines are 87 hours and reserves are flying till they are illegal - is that understaffed or still a little overstaffed? At some airlines it is the norm.
I am sure glad I am not there anymore
12-11-2009, 11:23 AM
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