Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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I got hammered by using vacation and bidding reserve. Ended up with high 80's line. PD'd 2 days to make schedule better. Each PD was worth more than 6 hours. I thought they were worth less than 4. Whoops.
Quick Question. I couldn’t find an answer in the PWA or the Scheduling Guide.
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Petting Zoo
Posts: 2,090
Quick Question. I couldn’t find an answer in the PWA or the Scheduling Guide.
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Position: Looking left
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Quick Question. I couldn’t find an answer in the PWA or the Scheduling Guide.
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
i was NQAT for 9 months of 2021, and I still got my normal 2 weeks of vacation to bid.
I wonder if it’s actually the LTD that doesn’t accrue vacation.
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Quick Question. I couldn’t find an answer in the PWA or the Scheduling Guide.
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
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you need adequate reserve coverage to drop, and right now most categories don’t have anywhere near the required number most days
You can also give your trips away to other pilots (that doesn't need enough reserve coverage) or use an "authorized personal drop (APD)" which you get one a year. You can use the APD to drop a trip, or up to I think 4 reserve days. Also, there is a way to move vacation from somewhere else in the coming year, to drop a trip in the present month. It pays like vacation (which isn't a lot, 3:30-3:45 per vacations day vs 5:15 or so for a day of flying).
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The second option is to swap the trips. Swaps can be done via the company scheduling system (DBMS) where the swap if the dropped trip is above adequate coverage is approved subject to FAR’s. If the trip is below Adequate coverage it will still be approved as long as the trip you are swapping for has the same or worse coverage.
Picking up trips generally falls into two categories. You can pick up at straight rates (white slip) subject to FAR’s and contractual limits. You can also put in a request (greenslip) to pick up at double pay subject only to FAR’s. How the company assigns trips is governed in section 23 of the contract via a assignment ladder. It’s long and complex but the short cliff note version is the company covers unassigned trips with legal reserves, white slips and then green slips.
There are other graduate level methods to force trip drops such as white slipping a trip in the current month forcing a FAR drop in the following month. Swapping trips in one month for another month ect.. You need a guru and the Scheduling reference handbook to understand it all.
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Quick Question. I couldn’t find an answer in the PWA or the Scheduling Guide.
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
I was On Long Term Disability until February last year.
Then I was NQAT until September.
I’ll probably catch grief for asking this but do you “not” earn vacation during NQAT? (I know, NQAT was a huge vacation)
it looks like I just earned two weeks of vacation last year instead of 4.
I know, boo-hoo, but I had plans for 22-23 vacation.
Thanks,
Humboldt
7.B.1. Exception. After a medical leave you do not start accruing vacation until all training is complete, including OE.
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