Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-02-2022, 06:24 AM
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Is there any other trick to learning your actual training date/month other than looking at the monthly conversion report? My "planned" conversion date from the AE results is rarely accurate.
01-02-2022, 06:41 AM
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Not really, it's a complete crapshoot and they don't seem to even have a grasp on when you'll go. The projection still shows guys training in Jan for guys who trained last Oct lol. My training has finally been uploaded into iCrew (for the 2nd time...here's hoping this one doesn't get pulled like the last one) and it's not even in the projected month, and 5 months after the original projection. Based on my experience, I wouldn't even bother trying to contact anyone in training, no one appears to answer voicemails, e-mails or the smartsheet. Our AE language is abysmal.
01-02-2022, 07:34 AM
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Just because it’s fun to imagine…
My FedEx friend with 10 years seniority was awarded 767 captain to sit at about 70% seniority in MEM. APC tells me that’s 319/hr, same as 777. If I understood correctly, awarded training slots are bid on each month. If you hold an upgrade award, you decide whether you do or don’t want to train next month and seniority dictates if you get what you want.
At 10 years, they also get 29 days of vacation to our 21, and theirs pay 6:00/day to our 3:45/3:30. Oh, and they get touching trips paid and can be guaranteed 48 hours off before vacation starts.
Sounds like some stuff to aspire to.
My FedEx friend with 10 years seniority was awarded 767 captain to sit at about 70% seniority in MEM. APC tells me that’s 319/hr, same as 777. If I understood correctly, awarded training slots are bid on each month. If you hold an upgrade award, you decide whether you do or don’t want to train next month and seniority dictates if you get what you want.
At 10 years, they also get 29 days of vacation to our 21, and theirs pay 6:00/day to our 3:45/3:30. Oh, and they get touching trips paid and can be guaranteed 48 hours off before vacation starts.
Sounds like some stuff to aspire to.
01-02-2022, 07:48 AM
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Keep an eye on the QT schedule. If you see people junior to you finish training by the 16th you should be pay protected starting that month, depending on how you checked the "Keep vacation" boxes on the AE.
01-02-2022, 08:25 AM
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Fatigue and Timecard
After calling in fatigued and losing a portion of your rotation, when does the pay/sick pay for the removed portion show back up on your timecard? After the FRB?
01-02-2022, 02:57 PM
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ATL 73N B reserve available list is black for the whole month of January and most days are off by double digits. I thought January was supposed to be a slower month. Are all categories like this?
01-02-2022, 03:16 PM
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01-02-2022, 03:33 PM
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For example I had one over 12-15 Nov. It was reroute to a day sleep to redeye that I banged fatigued over. I got 4F1R on the reroute day and then the rest shows regular pay for the portion of the trip I did not fly. Just showed up one day this month. For me smoetimes it happens within a few days, but sometimes it takes awhile. Not sure the FRB has an issue pay wise in this since (unless you bang out fatigued before sign-in on first day of rotation) we had the new LOA/MOU or whatever (someone help me out here).
Bird dog it. Send ii in to ALPA sheds if not done so already (pretty sure you did, please don't take it as a spear).
01-02-2022, 04:15 PM
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FWS answer - it depends....
For example I had one over 12-15 Nov. It was reroute to a day sleep to redeye that I banged fatigued over. I got 4F1R on the reroute day and then the rest shows regular pay for the portion of the trip I did not fly. Just showed up one day this month. For me smoetimes it happens within a few days, but sometimes it takes awhile. Not sure the FRB has an issue pay wise in this since (unless you bang out fatigued before sign-in on first day of rotation) we had the new LOA/MOU or whatever (someone help me out here).
Bird dog it. Send ii in to ALPA sheds if not done so already (pretty sure you did, please don't take it as a spear).
For example I had one over 12-15 Nov. It was reroute to a day sleep to redeye that I banged fatigued over. I got 4F1R on the reroute day and then the rest shows regular pay for the portion of the trip I did not fly. Just showed up one day this month. For me smoetimes it happens within a few days, but sometimes it takes awhile. Not sure the FRB has an issue pay wise in this since (unless you bang out fatigued before sign-in on first day of rotation) we had the new LOA/MOU or whatever (someone help me out here).
Bird dog it. Send ii in to ALPA sheds if not done so already (pretty sure you did, please don't take it as a spear).
Yup, first day of rotation. First time calling in fatigued. Got about 0 sleep. Thought about calling in sick but that didn’t really seem appropriate. DHD to rejoin rest of rotation.
01-02-2022, 04:23 PM
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HAC - thanks for the reply! How’d you see it? On the timecard or PAS since it was a month later?
Yup, first day of rotation. First time calling in fatigued. Got about 0 sleep. Thought about calling in sick but that didn’t really seem appropriate. DHD to rejoin rest of rotation.
Yup, first day of rotation. First time calling in fatigued. Got about 0 sleep. Thought about calling in sick but that didn’t really seem appropriate. DHD to rejoin rest of rotation.
FWIW I see mine on the "pay statement" (icrew>pay/hours>pay statement)
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