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Old 11-05-2021, 08:10 PM
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All of the above highlights the importance of not jumping to a new category until adequate seniority is there. What "adequate" is, is one's own personal definition, but it seems that whatever anyone considered good enough a year or two ago, is now 20-30% short of what would make them happy with their QOL today.

I suspect the days of people commuting out of one base to be a bottom third narrowbody captain in another (MSP resident to 80% NYC 320A etc.) are also likely winding down as it's got to be barely feasible at this point and absolutely rock bottom for having a life outside of work. Not to mention, with premium flying going out the way it is, probably not even a pay raise when commuting time and crashpad expenses are factored in.
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Old 11-06-2021, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Yes, above a certain amount of time. But I don’t recall the time and can’t find it in the PWA.
Greater than 5 hours and only upon request. See 5.E.1.d.
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Old 11-06-2021, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Yes, above a certain amount of time. But I don’t recall the time and can’t find it in the PWA.
Originally Posted by waldo135
Seems like it’s 5 hours
PWA 5.E.1.d "...scheduled for block-in to block-out of more than five hours (at pilots request)"

5:00 = no hotel

5:01 = hotel
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Old 11-06-2021, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
PWA 5.E.1.d "...scheduled for block-in to block-out of more than five hours (at pilots request)"

5:00 = no hotel

5:01 = hotel
Calling fatigued at 4:59 will get you that hotel. Or so I’ve heard.
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Old 11-06-2021, 06:52 AM
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What Hvydrvr said!,
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Old 11-06-2021, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Just saw a 5 day trip, two long legs a day with perfectly optimized 4 hr+ sits for 13hrs+ duty each day. Pays 32 hrs though so you got that going for ya if you don't fatigue out

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The long sits are heinous and suck the life out of you. I wrote my reps that we need some kind of sit pay. I believe AAL has something like this. 1 for 2 over 2 hours. Sit for 3 hours get a hard 30 minutes over rotation guarantee. Sit for 4 hours get 1 hour. This would disincentive long sits and hopefully make them a rare exception.

This would also make it a lot harder for the company to work around the trip rig as they currently do with 8 + block hour days mixed in with minimal or even no flying days.

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Old 11-06-2021, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hvydvr
Calling fatigued at 4:59 will get you that hotel. Or so I’ve heard.
This technique works very well. Also if you're scheduled for just under 5 hr sit and get in early you can call and get a hotel. Just being able to hit a gym or lie down for 30 mins does wonders for your energy levels during those long sits.
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Old 11-06-2021, 08:16 AM
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Or you could just shove a burrito down your gullet and spend 3 hours on APC.
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Old 11-06-2021, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Greater than 5 hours and only upon request. See 5.E.1.d.
So far all of mine have not required a call, just was on my schedule.

The long sits seemed to really spike in the middle of 2020 when our was limited. It was huge to have a place to go and get out of the uniform and catch a nap.
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Old 11-06-2021, 12:04 PM
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Anybody have info on the Secure act of 2019 stating you can take up to $5000 withdrawal from your 401k for the birth of a child penalty free?
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