Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-06-2021, 08:26 PM
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The slide recommends avoid pairings if:
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
10-06-2021, 08:31 PM
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Position: MD-88 FO
Posts: 1,571
The slide recommends avoid pairings if:
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
10-06-2021, 09:49 PM
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Posts: 1,363
The slide recommends avoid pairings if:
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
10-07-2021, 03:07 AM
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,995
The slide recommends avoid pairings if:
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
Make the call, folks. This isn’t an ALPA problem, or a management problem, or an RCC problem or an FAA problem. It’s a problem that (many) pilots are flying these rotations when they shouldn’t be. Sure, we’re all affected differently, but I don’t buy that the 80% of our fatiguing rotations are being operated by TWO well-rested pilots. Perhaps you’re fine, but the odds that the other guy or gal is also an effective ironmanner aren’t so good. And if you know you’re tired but are counting on the other guy to back you up…there’s a good chance he’s thinking the same.
A month or two of honest and professional fatigue calls will do more to improve safety at Delta than any RCC input or negotiated rig changes. Make the call, get rested, and get back on your rotation…too easy!
10-07-2021, 05:08 AM
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Posts: 19,599
The slide recommends avoid pairings if:
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
Any duty duration > 10:00
Any duty legs > 3 legs
Any layover duration < 11:00
Any sit length > 2:30
Total legs in first duty > 2 legs
Total legs in last duty > 2 legs
Pairing length > 4 days
Makes you wonder - should a pilot find herself on a trip where the first three conditions are met, does that warrant a call at the beginning of the day stating that she's unfit to complete the day as scheduled because Delta has deemed it unsafe and fatiguing?
10-07-2021, 05:14 AM
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Pretty sure the slide production "he" is a "she" and the "she" is not even a Delta pilot. That said, at least she will have the new 2021-2022 de-icing/holdover tables to review on the ATL-FAI flight. 😁
10-07-2021, 06:44 AM
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10-07-2021, 06:46 AM
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10-07-2021, 08:29 AM
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Who’s gonna fire them?! They’re doing exactly what the board and investors want them to do. Making as much revenue as possible with as few employees as possible. To the people that make management employment decisions they look brilliant…until.
10-07-2021, 09:17 AM
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