Funk

And even more important than the size of the base is the relative seniority bump it gives someone that either lives local or doesn't mind commuting. On NB fleets pre-pandemic, that could mean seniority approaching 50% at around one year.

Gone Flying

agreed. If JFK/LGA is where you want to fly out of and/or live, I think Delta would win over AA.

watch

Thanks. Close to 50% in the first year (seat and equipment) is awesome. I’ll have to check and see where the guys hired in March 2019 line up seniority wise in NY.

Funk

I'll that in addition to the seniority bump, the prevalence of commuters makes it even easier to enjoy a virtual bump in seniority. For example, on the 73, I started bidding for trips with LCAs and getting 4-6 days worth awarded at only about 4-5 months post OE, Many commuters that were senior to me just weren't interested in bidding to fly with LCAs or putting in for green slips. On a fleet that had people bid out of base relatively quickly and where there are so many commuters, I had entire months bought off for OE by the time I was getting close to my one year mark. Even without that virtual bump, I really enjoyed the trip mix on the 73 in New York. YMMV.

Han Solo

That's my point. The category is drastically unbalanced due to gross mismanagement of the pilot group but there are limited remedies the company can easily accomplish to unfornicate some of this mess. There are 15 717a reinstatements from the last AE; if the pilots in question haven't retrained its a 2-leg turn to make them a 717 captain again. If they have trained there's a little more to it but not a significant amount. The company could've had an extra 15 captains worth of flying as soon as June but they haven't reinstated a single one yet.

*shrug* Personally I'm torn because I'd certainly prefer the left seat over the right, but the left seaters are working like dogs and in the right seat I've flown a single 3-day trip against guarantee since January and I'm finding I quite enjoy the semi-retired life. I'm really more concerned that in my microcosm of the company all I see is gross ineptitude and I don't know how such a poorly run operation has any chance of flourishing long-term. Hopefully there's somebody with a grand plan that I'm too buried in the weeds to see, but it's my belief the company cut way too deep with the early retirements and there's a long uphill battle in front of us before we see the relatively smooth operation that existed pre-covid.

Maddoggin

Anyone know if a CA is getting TOE does one of the first officers get released. Fleet is 7ER. I know on the 330 everyone stayed. Didn’t know if it was different on the 7ER especially with all the recent updates to TOE.

TIA

Maddoggin

20Fathoms

Not 100 percent sure since the ER splits OE up into two separate segments, but pretty sure normal augmentation rules apply and you’ll only get bought off if it’s a 4 man crew. 3 man crew will just keep the extra crewmember to prevent the student from having a shift with a regular line pilot while the LCA is in the bunk.

ODB2

Does anyone know if they conduct TOE on 7ER KEF flights? 2 pilot ops, not sure if rest break is part of the required training.

Gone Flying

someone mentioned a few months back that KEF did not count as TOE because you only talked to gander

dc10guy

[QUOTE=20Fathoms;3261016]Not 100 percent sure since the ER splits OE up into two separate segments, but pretty sure normal augmentation rules apply and you’ll only get bought off if it’s a 4 man crew. 3 man crew will just keep the extra crewmember to prevent the student from having a shift with a regular line pilot while the LCA is in the bunk.[/QUOTE

pre covid on the ER, one pilot was released. Did it change? I have not done a crossing since.