Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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I also drive to FLL, TPA, MiA or PBI if there’s a trip with DH at the beginning or at the end.
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I will hand it to you that our present management team have severely fouled things up.
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I’m a commuter from FL also, I’ve been up to Gs8 on the pass. I’m sure by summer I’ll be able to RT easily. Very easy to do when we are so short. Just put a GS blanket and some weird trips might appear.
I also drive to FLL, TPA, MiA or PBI if there’s a trip with DH at the beginning or at the end.
I also drive to FLL, TPA, MiA or PBI if there’s a trip with DH at the beginning or at the end.
I agree with you that we are going to be slaughtered this summer - in a good way for some. Many of you are going to do very well. Best of luck and please don't push yourself too much.
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FedEX - Fred loves his pilots. He treats them as an integral part of the operation and they are paid and compensated thusly. DAL? Take a look at what they did to us over the last year. That was a lot of hate coming our way unnecessarily. That hurts. Not going to forget it.
I admit to being snarky in my posts relating FedEx to DAL. I direct those at the sailingfun types who think none of us here had other choices. We did. We also get it that we are married to this company. Management comes and goes. We are here - like a Greek slave galley almost. I say it in jest but with some candor.
I am merely expressing my dislike at where we are tracking as an airline right now from our division's perspective. Some bridges were GBU'd to hell this summer. Not sure they are going to be rebuilt. It will take us from our side AND management from their side for us to re-build to reach the middle again. I don't see that happening overnight.
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I haven't really heard a single downside comment from any one of the 17 bros I have that work there. One was over last night enjoying an adult beverage with me on the patio. He asked me why again I made my choice to DAL. I told him. At the time of my CJO, DAL had the best thing going. At least from what I could surmise. FF to today.....
I'm guessing somewhere in history a Pan-Am pilot was having beers during a back yard BBQ, asking his buddy why he'd ever considering going to (insert any airline still alive today), while proclaiming all the good things he had going. We all have our great things and we all have our not so great things. MOST people tend to only talk about how great things are with their chosen path. While others tend to have the perpetual black cloud following them around and only talk about the bad things in their path.
I haven't really heard a single downside comment from any one of the 17 bros I have that work there. One was over last night enjoying an adult beverage with me on the patio. He asked me why again I made my choice to DAL. I told him. At the time of my CJO, DAL had the best thing going. At least from what I could surmise. FF to today.....
FedEX - Fred loves his pilots. He treats them as an integral part of the operation and they are paid and compensated thusly. DAL? Take a look at what they did to us over the last year. That was a lot of hate coming our way unnecessarily. That hurts. Not going to forget it.
I admit to being snarky in my posts relating FedEx to DAL. I direct those at the sailingfun types who think none of us here had other choices. We did. We also get it that we are married to this company. Management comes and goes. We are here - like a Greek slave galley almost. I say it in jest but with some candor.
I am merely expressing my dislike at where we are tracking as an airline right now from our division's perspective. Some bridges were GBU'd to hell this summer. Not sure they are going to be rebuilt. It will take us from our side AND management from their side for us to re-build to reach the middle again. I don't see that happening overnight.
FedEX - Fred loves his pilots. He treats them as an integral part of the operation and they are paid and compensated thusly. DAL? Take a look at what they did to us over the last year. That was a lot of hate coming our way unnecessarily. That hurts. Not going to forget it.
I admit to being snarky in my posts relating FedEx to DAL. I direct those at the sailingfun types who think none of us here had other choices. We did. We also get it that we are married to this company. Management comes and goes. We are here - like a Greek slave galley almost. I say it in jest but with some candor.
I am merely expressing my dislike at where we are tracking as an airline right now from our division's perspective. Some bridges were GBU'd to hell this summer. Not sure they are going to be rebuilt. It will take us from our side AND management from their side for us to re-build to reach the middle again. I don't see that happening overnight.
Skip to 1998 and start reading. Gumm didn't invent the "Optimizer", it's over 2 decades old.
FDX Pilot History Timeline
Love Letter from Fred
Everybody gets their turn in the barrel, 2020 was your turn.
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I'm going out on a limb and guessing none of your 17 FredEx bros were there in 1998? It hasn't been all sunshine and roses. I'm old enough to have friends who received a personal copy of the "With or Without You" letter. Today's ALPA history lesson is the FedEx contract negotiation of 1998.
Skip to 1998 and start reading. Gumm didn't invent the "Optimizer", it's over 2 decades old.
FDX Pilot History Timeline
http://fdx.alpa.org/portals/26/docs/...17,%201998.pdf
Everybody gets their turn in the barrel, 2020 was your turn.
Skip to 1998 and start reading. Gumm didn't invent the "Optimizer", it's over 2 decades old.
FDX Pilot History Timeline
http://fdx.alpa.org/portals/26/docs/...17,%201998.pdf
Everybody gets their turn in the barrel, 2020 was your turn.
Our optimizer is different. That I can promise you talking with those FedEx'rs that were there when their "optimizer" was unleashed. Now it is not like that, they have evolved and it didn't suit them well. Will we learn the same lesson? Time will tell.
What was DAL doing at that time? Let's be fair here ok? And what happened to them versus us after 9/11? The mid 2000's? Seems we took a little trip down the path of bankruptcy - no?
Again, it pits DAL versus FedEx. I made a bad choice. But I'm here and stuck with it for the most part. I'm going to try to better it the best I can. That is the best and least drastic option. I already said TBNT to FedEx so that bridge is gone. I can however reflect on what might have been.
Oh yeah - you can take that "your turn" BS and do you know what with it. Pretty tired of you guys flippantly tossing it about. It doesn't have to be that way.
We ain't the best out there anymore. Far from it. Not the worse either. We can certainly do better.
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I'm going out on a limb and guessing none of your 17 FredEx bros were there in 1998? It hasn't been all sunshine and roses. My FedEx bros who received a personal copy of the "With or Without You" letter share a different opinion. Today's history lesson is the FedEx contract negotiation of 1998.
Skip to 1998 and start reading. Gumm didn't invent the "Optimizer", it's over 2 decades old.
FDX Pilot History Timeline
Love Letter from Fred
Everybody gets their turn in the barrel, 2020 was your turn.
Skip to 1998 and start reading. Gumm didn't invent the "Optimizer", it's over 2 decades old.
FDX Pilot History Timeline
Love Letter from Fred
Everybody gets their turn in the barrel, 2020 was your turn.
Anyhoo,
4 day GS. Day 4 is DH only. Besides per diem, is there any financial penalty in deviating on day 3?
4 day GS. Day 4 is DH only. Besides per diem, is there any financial penalty in deviating on day 3?
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