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Old 05-06-2020, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Well seems I have to backpedal on this answer. I just got an email today saying the company is now denying the 4 hours because the sim was for re-establishing recency and not maintaining recency......at least that’s what I got from it.

Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me...

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The training committee is looking into it since so many of us have been affected by this Scheduling/training/PWA snag.
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Old 05-06-2020, 09:25 AM
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Makes sense. Devil’s Advocate argument now. Wouldn’t now be the exact time to spin up logistically to capture the market and gain market share? Get ahead of the wait and see leaders. It’s always easier to do nothing.
It would be at least a year if not more before we could complete a cargo conversion for a aircraft. In the end we might wind up competing with ourselves. In order to justify a dedicated freighter you need enough demand where the passenger aircraft are maxed out for belly freight and you can fill the freighter.
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Old 05-06-2020, 10:43 AM
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The training committee is looking into it since so many of us have been affected by this Scheduling/training/PWA snag.
Thanks. I figured they would.

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Old 05-06-2020, 09:16 PM
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It would be at least a year if not more before we could complete a cargo conversion for a aircraft. In the end we might wind up competing with ourselves. In order to justify a dedicated freighter you need enough demand where the passenger aircraft are maxed out for belly freight and you can fill the freighter.
A year for a cargo conversion? Holy cow. We own the planes and there’s flying to be done. Who does it better than us? The 757s and 767s have a lot of life left in them with the lower cycles of a cargo operation. Not everything can be done on passenger routes with belly cargo. No offense, of course.
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Old 05-07-2020, 03:52 AM
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It would be at least a year if not more before we could complete a cargo conversion for a aircraft. In the end we might wind up competing with ourselves. In order to justify a dedicated freighter you need enough demand where the passenger aircraft are maxed out for belly freight and you can fill the freighter.
I wonder how many, if any, of the international destinations where we used to leave passengers behind for cargo would benefit from a cargo only flight. You could fill the passenger plane with people and whatever cargo fits and the rest goes on the cargo flight.
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Old 05-07-2020, 05:02 AM
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I wonder how many, if any, of the international destinations where we used to leave passengers behind for cargo would benefit from a cargo only flight. You could fill the passenger plane with people and whatever cargo fits and the rest goes on the cargo flight.
I never left passengers for cargo and that is not how Delta set the priorities. I have left cargo out of SVO, ATH, FCO and TLV for weight. Station manager in TLV said they would get it out the next day 90% of time. You would need a huge amount of cargo to cover the cost of a dedicated freighter. Delta tried it once and NWA tried it for many years. Did not work for either company. UPS tried to fly passenger once also. Did not work out well for them.
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Old 05-07-2020, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DELTAFO
I wonder how many, if any, of the international destinations where we used to leave passengers behind for cargo would benefit from a cargo only flight. You could fill the passenger plane with people and whatever cargo fits and the rest goes on the cargo flight.
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While we leave non-revs behind for cargo, we NEVER leave paying passengers. Cuz cargo is rev and non-revs, by definition, are not.

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Old 05-07-2020, 03:08 PM
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Half the worlds cargo capacity was lost in the last 60 days. Cargo yields have soared. When the passenger flights resume the cargo yields will drop like a stone. In other words it’s a horrible time to spends millions per airframe to convert them to freighters.
Another point of why a cargo conversion isn't useful is that before the Coronovirus, Atlas has freighters parked because not enough business. It's very cyclical, and we'd be paying for planes to sit around when business was bad - or lower the price so much we would be flying for free.
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:31 AM
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Does anyone have good sa on where they are with landing currency rehacks? I’m due next week and heard crickets thus far. Are they pushing us down the line and letting us go out of currency in order to deal with closer rocks? Stuff like that. Thanks
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:46 AM
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Does anyone have good sa on where they are with landing currency rehacks? I’m due next week and heard crickets thus far. Are they pushing us down the line and letting us go out of currency in order to deal with closer rocks? Stuff like that. Thanks
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Company stated they were not going to use the waiver. Having said that I will expire soon and have heard nothing.
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