Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-08-2009, 02:26 PM
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I'm not sure if I agree with you. There is free speech, and then there is slander and libel.
The law says, slander is any intentional false communication, either written or spoken, that harms a person's reputation; decreases the respect, regard, or confidence in which a person is held; or induces disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against a person. Libel is the written or broadcasted version of slander.
The law says, slander is any intentional false communication, either written or spoken, that harms a person's reputation; decreases the respect, regard, or confidence in which a person is held; or induces disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against a person. Libel is the written or broadcasted version of slander.
Don't take my word for it - call Legal at National.
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12-08-2009, 02:35 PM
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Delta CEO to meet Maehara over JAL
While we're waiting for ACL, I found this.
Delta CEO to meet Maehara over JAL Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion
TOKYO —
Delta Air Lines Inc Chief Executive Officer Richard Anderson will meet with Japanese transport minister Seiji Maehara on Wednesday over the U.S. carrier’s financial rescue proposal for struggling Japan Airlines Corp., ministry sources said Tuesday. Anderson is likely to seek Maehara’s understanding regarding its $1.02 billion (about 90 billion yen) package for JAL during the meeting at the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism, they said.
Senior officials of American Airlines Inc, which has also offered aid of up to $1.1 billion (about 97 billion yen) for JAL, are also scheduled to meet with Maehara next week for a similar purpose, the officials said.
The world’s two biggest airlines have recently intensified their efforts to secure a partnership with JAL as they seek to access lucrative Asian routes operated by Japan’s largest carrier in view of the anticipated conclusion of an open skies accord between Japan and the United States.
Anderson is expected to explain to Maehara that Delta could seek additional funds to beef up the amount it has offered if JAL joins the SkyTeam group of carriers led by the U.S. carrier and that the group could contribute to enhancing air routes linking Japan with the U.S. and European cities.
JAL currently belongs to the oneworld grouping led by American Airlines.
American Airlines has said that if JAL moves to SkyTeam, it would boost the SkyTeam’s share of Japan-U.S. routes and would constitute an antitrust problem. American Airlines’ officials are likely to stress this aspect to Maehara when they meet with him next week.
Delta CEO to meet Maehara over JAL Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion
TOKYO —
Delta Air Lines Inc Chief Executive Officer Richard Anderson will meet with Japanese transport minister Seiji Maehara on Wednesday over the U.S. carrier’s financial rescue proposal for struggling Japan Airlines Corp., ministry sources said Tuesday. Anderson is likely to seek Maehara’s understanding regarding its $1.02 billion (about 90 billion yen) package for JAL during the meeting at the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism, they said.
Senior officials of American Airlines Inc, which has also offered aid of up to $1.1 billion (about 97 billion yen) for JAL, are also scheduled to meet with Maehara next week for a similar purpose, the officials said.
The world’s two biggest airlines have recently intensified their efforts to secure a partnership with JAL as they seek to access lucrative Asian routes operated by Japan’s largest carrier in view of the anticipated conclusion of an open skies accord between Japan and the United States.
Anderson is expected to explain to Maehara that Delta could seek additional funds to beef up the amount it has offered if JAL joins the SkyTeam group of carriers led by the U.S. carrier and that the group could contribute to enhancing air routes linking Japan with the U.S. and European cities.
JAL currently belongs to the oneworld grouping led by American Airlines.
American Airlines has said that if JAL moves to SkyTeam, it would boost the SkyTeam’s share of Japan-U.S. routes and would constitute an antitrust problem. American Airlines’ officials are likely to stress this aspect to Maehara when they meet with him next week.
12-08-2009, 02:36 PM
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Lets hear the bad news....too much suspense around here
12-08-2009, 02:38 PM
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There is freedom of speech ... and then there is breaking the law. A very fine line in terms of slander and libel. Expressing the views of someone is much different than accusing someone of breaking the law. If you pubically accuse someone of breaking the law and you either have no proof or willingly stated/printed such information, I believe you are still in violation of slander / libel laws.
Here is the Landrum Griffith Act of 1959 ...
Freedom of Speech and Assembly - Every member of any Labor organization shall have the right to meet and assemble freely with other members; and to express any views, arguments, or opinions; and to express at meetings of the Labor organization his views, upon candidates in an election of the Labor organization or upon any business properly before the meeting, subject to the organization's established and reasonable rules pertaining to the conduct of meetings: Provided, that nothing herein shall be construed to impair the right of a Labor organization to adopt and enforce reasonable rules as to the responsibility of every member toward the organization as an institution and to his refraining from conduct that would interfere with its performance of its legal or contractual obligations.
Here is the Landrum Griffith Act of 1959 ...
Freedom of Speech and Assembly - Every member of any Labor organization shall have the right to meet and assemble freely with other members; and to express any views, arguments, or opinions; and to express at meetings of the Labor organization his views, upon candidates in an election of the Labor organization or upon any business properly before the meeting, subject to the organization's established and reasonable rules pertaining to the conduct of meetings: Provided, that nothing herein shall be construed to impair the right of a Labor organization to adopt and enforce reasonable rules as to the responsibility of every member toward the organization as an institution and to his refraining from conduct that would interfere with its performance of its legal or contractual obligations.
12-08-2009, 02:42 PM
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Hey ACL
If this Guam thing happens, are they gonna deadhead guys out for the rotations or actually expect people to live there? I could actually see it if the former were true...not so much with the latter.
Buzz
If this Guam thing happens, are they gonna deadhead guys out for the rotations or actually expect people to live there? I could actually see it if the former were true...not so much with the latter.
Buzz
12-08-2009, 02:46 PM
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There is freedom of speech ... and then there is breaking the law. A very fine line in terms of slander and libel. Expressing the views of someone is much different than accusing someone of breaking the law. If you pubically accuse someone of breaking the law and you either have no proof or willingly stated/printed such information, I believe you are still in violation of slander / libel laws.
Here is the Landrum Griffith Act of 1959 ...
Freedom of Speech and Assembly - Every member of any Labor organization shall have the right to meet and assemble freely with other members; and to express any views, arguments, or opinions; and to express at meetings of the Labor organization his views, upon candidates in an election of the Labor organization or upon any business properly before the meeting, subject to the organization's established and reasonable rules pertaining to the conduct of meetings: Provided, that nothing herein shall be construed to impair the right of a Labor organization to adopt and enforce reasonable rules as to the responsibility of every member toward the organization as an institution and to his refraining from conduct that would interfere with its performance of its legal or contractual obligations.
Here is the Landrum Griffith Act of 1959 ...
Freedom of Speech and Assembly - Every member of any Labor organization shall have the right to meet and assemble freely with other members; and to express any views, arguments, or opinions; and to express at meetings of the Labor organization his views, upon candidates in an election of the Labor organization or upon any business properly before the meeting, subject to the organization's established and reasonable rules pertaining to the conduct of meetings: Provided, that nothing herein shall be construed to impair the right of a Labor organization to adopt and enforce reasonable rules as to the responsibility of every member toward the organization as an institution and to his refraining from conduct that would interfere with its performance of its legal or contractual obligations.
Yeah I know - it's the interpretations that matter - the "meet assemble and freely exchange views" has some interesting twist in the internet era.....not making this up. I have fairly intimate knowledge of this and was involved as it was playing out at NWA. Again, don't take my word for it.......
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12-08-2009, 02:48 PM
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Since I'm young and no kids and stuff, I actualy was thinking about the GUM thing if I could hit an early 73N captain position.
18 hours in the air plus connect time and customs. Unless I'm positive spaced over there, no thanks.
As far as the sickening thing, I wouldn't consider it "sickening" as much as "agh, that's kinda gay." Don't worry, it's not the F word... but ATL is prob taking a hit on this one at the expense of getting the staffing more in line on the north side of things.
12-08-2009, 02:48 PM
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12-08-2009, 02:56 PM
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12-08-2009, 03:03 PM
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Since I'm young and no kids and stuff, I actualy was thinking about the GUM thing if I could hit an early 73N captain position.
18 hours in the air plus connect time and customs. Unless I'm positive spaced over there, no thanks.
As far as the sickening thing, I wouldn't consider it "sickening" as much as "agh, that's kinda gay." Don't worry, it's not the F word... but ATL is prob taking a hit on this one at the expense of getting the staffing more in line on the north side of things.
18 hours in the air plus connect time and customs. Unless I'm positive spaced over there, no thanks.
As far as the sickening thing, I wouldn't consider it "sickening" as much as "agh, that's kinda gay." Don't worry, it's not the F word... but ATL is prob taking a hit on this one at the expense of getting the staffing more in line on the north side of things.
Suffice to say there are a lot of things going on that may change the way this AE is bid for and processed.
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