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Denny
As has been said, you will have to wait until October bidding for November to do a slide for November vacation. That being said.......Good Luck with that! I have a week in November too and have had a vacation move up in since the vacation bids came out. No luck. I will be trying to do the same thing but have had no success in the past.
Denny
Denny
If a slide is awarded, you could have held those days off anyway. I'm not sure of your seat seniority, but just keep in mind that slides are not looked at if you're subject to coverage. If you're going to attempt a slide, as a backup, be sure to ask for those days off (maybe with an else start next). If the slide is awarded, no big deal, if it's denied, you'll at least have a shot at getting as many of those days off as possible.
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Questions regarding reroutes.
My original trip was worth 23 hours and I was rerouted which increased my credit to 32 hours. I was rerouted again and my credit dropped back down to 24 hours after I was given different flying. Am I still entitled to the higher credit or is it actually what I end up flying?
My original trip was worth 23 hours and I was rerouted which increased my credit to 32 hours. I was rerouted again and my credit dropped back down to 24 hours after I was given different flying. Am I still entitled to the higher credit or is it actually what I end up flying?
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Questions regarding reroutes.
My original trip was worth 23 hours and I was rerouted which increased my credit to 32 hours. I was rerouted again and my credit dropped back down to 24 hours after I was given different flying. Am I still entitled to the higher credit or is it actually what I end up flying?
My original trip was worth 23 hours and I was rerouted which increased my credit to 32 hours. I was rerouted again and my credit dropped back down to 24 hours after I was given different flying. Am I still entitled to the higher credit or is it actually what I end up flying?
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APD and IVD perhaps but APD is unpaid and IVD is essentially unpaid because you are just shorting yourself later. If your intent is to drop to adjust your schedule these tools are a waste. Both APD and IVD days can't be used to pick up so you have to be stategic with using a single APD day which makes the other 3 APD days useless. IVD days are paid at vacation day value making them worth less than a trip of equal length and you lose pay and time off during your real vacation.
I am going to agree with Sailing here. First off our vacation “value” as paid days off sucks and is industry lagging. I am talking accrual times hours per day. Most airlines have a higher value than us.
OTOH our vacation “flexibility” is awesome. IVDs are not unpaid you are just moving your vacation forward, ie flexibility. APDs are in fact unpaid, but if you want off in the summer they are awesome. The only downside is that I miss the summer GS “feeding frenzy” which is why I think some guys skip summer vacations.
Last summer I was about 80%, this summer about 65%. I was able to hold over 30 straight days off both summers, the last half of July and first half of August. I am not even discussing PB days since most guys don’t have them, but wow if you have a few PB days the sky is the limit.
Like I said our vacation “value” blows in my opinion and we need to improve it, perhaps a higher per day value and a return of paid APDs. On the other hand the ability to work your schedule for days off is awesome. Yes you have to plan ahead and need it lined up by the 20th. The plugs IVDs will drop before #1s APD drops, the plugs APD will drop before #1s PD drops etc.
Granted you only have 1 of each but it works pretty good for the busy summer time and if you wait until after PCS runs start it might not work as well but I am typing this in the middle of 30 plus days off.
Scoop
Last edited by Scoop; 07-26-2019 at 05:40 AM.
If a slide is awarded, you could have held those days off anyway. I'm not sure of your seat seniority, but just keep in mind that slides are not looked at if you're subject to coverage. If you're going to attempt a slide, as a backup, be sure to ask for those days off (maybe with an else start next). If the slide is awarded, no big deal, if it's denied, you'll at least have a shot at getting as many of those days off as possible.
I read your similar guidance previously and factored this in to my AUG PBS bid. Thanks for the info. I was able to successfully slide my VAC forward to where I wanted it.
However, I did notice something on the wide report that surprised me. I bid reserve (no choice but I would have anyway.) There was at least one day during my slide period that was assigned for coverage to pilots senior to me. Despite this, my slide was still awarded, and I got that day as VAC.
Your logic seems sound to me, but it didn’t seem to work out this way in this case. Error in my favor, or is the logic perhaps programmed differently?
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I read your similar guidance previously and factored this in to my AUG PBS bid. Thanks for the info. I was able to successfully slide my VAC forward to where I wanted it.
However, I did notice something on the wide report that surprised me. I bid reserve (no choice but I would have anyway.) There was at least one day during my slide period that was assigned for coverage to pilots senior to me. Despite this, my slide was still awarded, and I got that day as VAC.
Your logic seems sound to me, but it didn’t seem to work out this way in this case. Error in my favor, or is the logic perhaps programmed differently?
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However, I did notice something on the wide report that surprised me. I bid reserve (no choice but I would have anyway.) There was at least one day during my slide period that was assigned for coverage to pilots senior to me. Despite this, my slide was still awarded, and I got that day as VAC.
Your logic seems sound to me, but it didn’t seem to work out this way in this case. Error in my favor, or is the logic perhaps programmed differently?
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Was the coverage for a line or reserve? Sometimes the coverage cutoff is quite different for lineholders vs reserve.
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