Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-14-2019, 07:49 AM
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A contract is a contract.
Seems ive heard that anyways.
We need less history majors and more english majors on the NC. Lol
Seems ive heard that anyways.
We need less history majors and more english majors on the NC. Lol
06-14-2019, 08:24 AM
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This was poorly worded and we got the worst interpretation. At one point (inadvertently, perhaps) this was represented as half of up to 80 hours of unused sick leave. So, for someone who only used 50 of their 125 hours, they'd get half of 75 (37.5). Instead, they only get 15 (half of 80-50) as it is currently interpreted.
Someone with an allocation of 270, who only uses 80 and leaves 190 on the table... gets no Enhanced Disability Benefit. Under the previous representation (again, no reason to believe it was malicious, but it's what I thought were were voting for), that pilot leaving 190 on the table would at least have 40 hours rolled into his EDB bank.
Someone with an allocation of 270, who only uses 80 and leaves 190 on the table... gets no Enhanced Disability Benefit. Under the previous representation (again, no reason to believe it was malicious, but it's what I thought were were voting for), that pilot leaving 190 on the table would at least have 40 hours rolled into his EDB bank.
While I understand your overall point, here’s the actually text in the PWA:
“Following the completion of each sick leave year under Section 14, beginning with the sick leave year completed in 2017, a pilot who uses less than 80 sick leave credit hours in the sick leave year just completed will have credited to his enhanced disability account the number of hours equal to 50% of the difference between the number of sick leave credit hours he used and 80, e.g. a maximum credit of 40 hours with respect to any single, completed sick leave year.”
I guess I don’t see how that’s a bad interpretation. The key phrase is “a pilot who uses less than 80 sick leaves credit hours in the sick leave year.”
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
06-14-2019, 08:53 AM
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While I understand your overall point, here’s the actually text in the PWA:
“Following the completion of each sick leave year under Section 14, beginning with the sick leave year completed in 2017, a pilot who uses less than 80 sick leave credit hours in the sick leave year just completed will have credited to his enhanced disability account the number of hours equal to 50% of the difference between the number of sick leave credit hours he used and 80, e.g. a maximum credit of 40 hours with respect to any single, completed sick leave year.”
I guess I don’t see how that’s a bad interpretation. The key phrase is “a pilot who uses less than 80 sick leaves credit hours in the sick leave year.”
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
“Following the completion of each sick leave year under Section 14, beginning with the sick leave year completed in 2017, a pilot who uses less than 80 sick leave credit hours in the sick leave year just completed will have credited to his enhanced disability account the number of hours equal to 50% of the difference between the number of sick leave credit hours he used and 80, e.g. a maximum credit of 40 hours with respect to any single, completed sick leave year.”
I guess I don’t see how that’s a bad interpretation. The key phrase is “a pilot who uses less than 80 sick leaves credit hours in the sick leave year.”
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Note that the actual PWA language does not use the term "unused sick leave", which is not relevant to the calculus. However, casual discussions on the item consistently referenced unused sick leave, which leads one to subtract what they haven't used from their allocation (and that's not relevant).
This type of my own misunderstanding leads me to want to see actual/final PWA language coincident with the release of a TA for voting.
06-14-2019, 12:27 PM
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06-14-2019, 01:20 PM
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Lol....my English Mom would be very disappointed in such an error.
06-14-2019, 04:21 PM
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06-14-2019, 05:37 PM
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That’s why I bid a line for the 4th time in 3 years...
06-14-2019, 05:57 PM
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I’ve never been able to break the code on the coverage awards. I get the concept but have no idea how they implement it. In my category the junior line holder could get the holiday off but 15 guys on reserve got coverage awards for the 4th of July week. Why didn’t line holders go into coverage awards? There are at least a dozen trips in open time for that weekend. It’s even worse the last weekend of the month, 26 of 32 reserve lines got hit with coverage on that weekend. I’m uber junior but always try and get a line because i find I have much more control over the schedule even though I’m deep into the garbage trips.
06-15-2019, 03:47 AM
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I’ve never been able to break the code on the coverage awards. I get the concept but have no idea how they implement it. In my category the junior line holder could get the holiday off but 15 guys on reserve got coverage awards for the 4th of July week. Why didn’t line holders go into coverage awards? There are at least a dozen trips in open time for that weekend. It’s even worse the last weekend of the month, 26 of 32 reserve lines got hit with coverage on that weekend. I’m uber junior but always try and get a line because i find I have much more control over the schedule even though I’m deep into the garbage trips.
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