TED74

Interesting... do we have a grievance filed for that?

Word on the street is that BA went over 270 hours one month. Happy for his windfall, but I know plenty of folks who would have been happy to have taken 350A conversion into what is clearly an undermanned category... not to mention the trickle-up that would have enabled upgrades across the fleet.

Hillbilly

That’s almost $15k in DC for the month and will make for one heck of a profit sharing check too! Wow!

Delta2heavy

Spirit pass question. I’m trying to plan a cruise next year. Can I use it to fly into somewhere and leave from somewhere else?
I.e. can I fly into Roma or Venice and fly home from Athens?

sailingfun

Type spirit pass rules into Deltanet. Short answer is it is allowed. It’s under open jaw bookings in the rules.

TED74

Big DC and PS indeed. But don't forget, that's not extra PS those guys are generating for the company; if I understand PTIX correctly (I may have it wrong), the exorbitant compensation paid actually reduces PTIX too. And Crew Resources' under-manning of the 350 category skews a larger piece of the "fixed" profit sharing pie to those guys, and reduces PS for the rest of us who are only making 6 figures and not 7. I certainly don't blame the pilots. I suspect it's a CR problem, but until someone confesses to having miscalculated or made poor business decisions, I suppose we just know that the company screwed up.

Buck Rogers

On this past AE , 7-10 pilots awarded A350 Capt positions will not be converted....why......RET. Kinda a tuff nut to crack, trying to figure out how many pilots will drop their papers. They probably bid the position hoping for a bypass, not getting it and then pulling the handles. Not a super long track record for CR to gauge actions like that....but they will figure it out. Sorry it cut into your profit sharing. Do you feel the same about grossly over-manned categories where Delta pays pilots to sit at home and hardly turn a wheel?
But if it makes you feel better, blame crew resources, since it seems like you are intent on finding a fall guy.

Buck Rogers

Also, quite a few A350 Capt's got bypassed....that means the company has to pay them top end rates until they retire. That too cuts into your profit sharing.....do you advocate giving up training bypass in the next contract? We don't want to gore your profit sharing now, do we?

TED74

Not looking for a fall guy, but I'm a big fan of accountability. Maybe I'm not reading for comprehension, but I don't often hear CR take responsibility for much...and there's often finger-pointing at Network for their flail. Let's not forget, it's all Delta management.

I don't begrudge anyone for working as little as possible, for as much money as possible. And I won't notice the minor reduction of my PS for these guys' windfall. Like many of us I hope I might win the category lottery before retirement and get a few months of super-earnings some day.

My point is simply to remind folks of management's missteps in anticipation of negotiations. They'll soon come to the table demanding efficiency gains and we shouldn't forgot how many of our inefficiencies are brought about by their own business decisions. Remember, it's a great deal easier to properly man a few categories than it is to man almost a dozen.

GogglesPisano

They displaced from the 350 a few AE's ago -- when they were grossly understaffed and knew it would only get worse. There's no way that made any sense. They should have carried the fat if necessary.

sailingfun

They did not displace anyone. They canceled training for 6 or 7 FO’s before they started training. No Captains were effected and they rebid the positions. They were canceled because they needed the sims for CA checkouts.