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Old 07-22-2018, 05:45 AM
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You have to actually get on a flight to burn an S2. If you miss your flight, the S2 doesn’t get used. What’s the problem again?
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:25 AM
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You have to actually get on a flight to burn an S2. If you miss your flight, the S2 doesn’t get used. What’s the problem again?
You burn an S2 to get a FC international upgrade. Someone (senior) who had already checked in S3 sees that check in, and then changes to S2 himself. He gets the upgrade, and you're back in economy discomfort where you could have been with S3.

Totally legal, just not cool in my own opinion. If I think a trip/seat is one of my 6 most critical for the year and it doesn't look like everyone will get one, I check in S2. If I already checked in as S3, I leave it as is. That's just me...
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
You have to actually get on a flight to burn an S2. If you miss your flight, the S2 doesn’t get used. What’s the problem again?
I’ll lay it down in very simple terms since you decided not to read the posts and just wade in.

Checking in S3 and then at minute 31 changing it to S2 is a douche move (subject to opinion), and is furthermore not really comparable to the “contention” over oobws or using an SIL. (Still not really sure how we can hold those 3 up in the light together but hey, it’s a free country.)
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
I’ll lay it down in very simple terms since you decided not to read the posts and just wade in.

Checking in S3 and then at minute 31 changing it to S2 is a douche move (subject to opinion), and is furthermore not really comparable to the “contention” over oobws or using an SIL. (Still not really sure how we can hold those 3 up in the light together but hey, it’s a free country.)
Very much agreed, along with listing for multiple flights on the same day.
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Old 07-22-2018, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I thought that once you check in your priority level was locked in (S2 vs S3.)
Nope. Domestically you can change your priority up to 35 minutes prior to the departure. I have zero problem with that because, like OOBWS, those are the rules. The problem I have is when someone plays, or is, buddy buddy with the gate agent and changes their priority inside of that window to either not burn an S2 because they are going to get on or burn one because it’s 15 prior to departure and it doesn’t look like they will make it.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by velosnow
Very much agreed, along with listing for multiple flights on the same day.
This is a violation of company policy as well as listing for multiple jumpseats. If you encounter a multiple jumpseat listing call the pilot and ask which one he really wants. If he refuses to cancel one call the CPSC and they will cancel whichever one you want and book you.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
This is a violation of company policy as well as listing for multiple jumpseats. If you encounter a multiple jumpseat listing call the pilot and ask which one he really wants. If he refuses to cancel one call the CPSC and they will cancel whichever one you want and book you.
I was talking more about non-rev listing, but yeah that too.
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Old 07-23-2018, 06:50 AM
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I see all the time guys list non rev for one flight and jumpseat for the next one. Then it seems like they want me to tell them how nice they are when they get on their first flight and cancel the jumpseat for their second flight so I can have it. I don’t know of any way to see this in advance and call them on it. So I just say thanks a lot and take their leftovers.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
I see all the time guys list non rev for one flight and jumpseat for the next one. Then it seems like they want me to tell them how nice they are when they get on their first flight and cancel the jumpseat for their second flight so I can have it. I don’t know of any way to see this in advance and call them on it. So I just say thanks a lot and take their leftovers.
Let me lay out an example and you tell me what you think.

Keep in mind this is for going home, not commuting to work.

You have a trip that is scheduled to end at 1530. You go to book the jumpseat and the one at 1615 is already booked, so you book the next one at 1830. On the last day of your trip you check the loads and see that the flight at 1615 has 20 seats open and 7 people listed. Jumpseat is still booked. Obviously you are going to attempt to non rev on the earlier flight. Must you cancel your jumpseat on the later flight to list on the earlier flight? That runs the risk on an unexpected IROP pushing a bunch of pax onto both flights and not getting home.

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Old 07-23-2018, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
I see all the time guys list non rev for one flight and jumpseat for the next one. Then it seems like they want me to tell them how nice they are when they get on their first flight and cancel the jumpseat for their second flight so I can have it. I don’t know of any way to see this in advance and call them on it. So I just say thanks a lot and take their leftovers.
The way to fix this is to allow the pilot to list for the Jumpseat and NonRev like every other airline.
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