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Old 06-22-2018, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I always ask and say that I'm willing to sit in the FA jumpseat if it gets someone else on.

As far as the eye contact thing, they may be tired and not even see you. Engage and you may be surprised with the results.

I had a regional friend tell me about our supposed reputation for not making eye contact walking through the halls. I'm a friendly guy, and I always say hi or smile and wave and never gave it a second thought.... so I paid attention my next trip as to my contact with other pilots. I was 0 for 6 with any regional guys responding to my smile and nod or even wave at them. Goes both ways....
When I wear my hat, 99% of Delta pilots make eye contact, smile or nod, it's hit or miss without it. I bet the same goes for regional pilots.
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble
Yes. And if I see a full flight with an off line jumpseater, I arrange for the Delta pilot to use the FA Jumpseat (if available). Almost every Delta pilot has been very understanding. And the one that wasn’t, I finally told him to stop arguing as we don’t leave people.
Yes, Skyking, I’m sure they all thanked you profusely for “arranging” for them to sit on the FA jumpseat. Don’t argue with the Skyking. You will sit where you are told. As we don’t want to upset the Skyking.

I think you may need to get a bigger hat.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
JFK is the worst at this. I've been left at the gate with an open cockpit JS because the agent didn't want to take a delay. I pointed out that they were already 10 minutes late, who cares if they're 11 minutes late? The agent literally ignored me, walked to the jetway and closed the door behind them. I can only hope Karma finds that man some day and he gets to spend an extra night in a place he doesn't want to be, because somebody didn't want to take a minute out of their day to do the right thing.


Take out your pen and ask their name. Tell them you'll need it to submit in your report. It may well change their tune.


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Old 06-23-2018, 10:41 AM
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[QUOTE=StartngOvr;2620209]Take out your pen and ask their name. Tell them you'll need it to submit in your report. It may well change their tune.

I doubt they are going to care that you threaten to write them up for following company policy. On the other hand they get in big trouble for every delay if it’s put on them even when the departure time is changed. Boarding a late pilot would be charged to them.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by UGBSM
Yes, Skyking, I’m sure they all thanked you profusely for “arranging” for them to sit on the FA jumpseat. Don’t argue with the Skyking. You will sit where you are told. As we don’t want to upset the Skyking.

I think you may need to get a bigger hat.
Geez, guess you were never a commuter. Leave no one behind works for me, even as a guy living in base.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:30 PM
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It almost always works itself out in the gatehouse. If not, I ask the jump seater if he is willing to give it up and take the fa seat. They have always been willing.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:32 PM
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[QUOTE=sailingfun;2620254]
Originally Posted by StartngOvr
Take out your pen and ask their name. Tell them you'll need it to submit in your report. It may well change their tune.

I doubt they are going to care that you threaten to write them up for following company policy. On the other hand they get in big trouble for every delay if it’s put on them even when the departure time is changed. Boarding a late pilot would be charged to them.
They start caring a lot as soon as you ask to see their badge.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:56 PM
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I wouldn’t lump all gate agents into this. My wife and I were traveling S1A for a funeral, ATL gate agent calls us up, he’s got 1 seat. I send the wife, ask about any JS available at this point (long shot as all were booked previously). He said 1 FA didn’t check in and I’ll put you on it. Great. Amazing. I’ll sit wherever I need to at this point. This was about :8 prior to push. Took a :10 delay with a redcoat interaction to make it work. Did he know I was going S1A? He likely saw it. Did he not let it go, yes. Still arrived on time. I apologized to everyone I saw but he made it happen. Saw him a week later and fulfilled his Starbucks request as the least I could do. They try. Gotta give at least some the credit. Some don’t care, but my experience in ATL is they make it happen, if at all possible. Can’t speak of other bases, but my recent experience had me more than impressed after even saying “if this is going to hurt you, I’ll try for the next”. His response “nope, you can and will be on this plane”. Cheapest latte I ever bought. Made a massive difference in the end.
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Old 06-23-2018, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by higney85
I wouldn’t lump all gate agents into this. My wife and I were traveling S1A for a funeral, ATL gate agent calls us up, he’s got 1 seat. I send the wife, ask about any JS available at this point (long shot as all were booked previously). He said 1 FA didn’t check in and I’ll put you on it. Great. Amazing. I’ll sit wherever I need to at this point. This was about :8 prior to push. Took a :10 delay with a redcoat interaction to make it work. Did he know I was going S1A? He likely saw it. Did he not let it go, yes. Still arrived on time. I apologized to everyone I saw but he made it happen. Saw him a week later and fulfilled his Starbucks request as the least I could do. They try. Gotta give at least some the credit. Some don’t care, but my experience in ATL is they make it happen, if at all possible. Can’t speak of other bases, but my recent experience had me more than impressed after even saying “if this is going to hurt you, I’ll try for the next”. His response “nope, you can and will be on this plane”. Cheapest latte I ever bought. Made a massive difference in the end.
Very true, I've seen both extremes as well from gate agents. And from fellow pilots unfortunately. Def catch more flies with honey (coffee) than vinegar (craptastic attitude).
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Old 06-23-2018, 06:27 PM
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Good gate agents are worth their weight in gold.
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