Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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We have previously had this discussion. And you are still uninformed on the facts.
I was there. And personally involved. As a delta ip, an impacted tax payer, and as part of the organized group to deal with ga when our 'union' cut us loose.
The ga case had nothing to do with a rla legal argument other than to nullify the wide area income production exemption. Which then disqualified training dept pilots as protected rla workers.
The states prevailing legal argument was based on source income. Iow income produced in a fixed geographic location. I.e. a simulator bolted to the ground in atl.
The state selected a single m88 ip and made an initial run at tax liability based on residency. I understand it didnt 'fly'.
Ther is no double jeopardy in tax matters....so ga went back to court and argued source income from a fixed geographic location.
The judge agreed. The state i understand then handed this m88 ip a felony fraud indictment.
Delta was a cooperative witness providing ga all ip personal data. I believe as a means to mitigate the corp liability for failing to begin witholding from employees assigned to non-operations GO departments. As was required by the state.
This is why when delta infomed me of their surrendering my personal data to ga i made the call. As i explained to the states attorney i actually have paid a state tax liability 50% more than ga...her response was..."we dont care...you have defrauded the state of tax revenue...and we will prosecute you to the full extent of the law."
They already had the case law established.
Urban legend? She was the wife of a delta pilot.
Now. Since dalpa never saw a need to have training in the pwa...we were cut loose.
Until....somehow ga found out our mec chair...who made his income in a chair in the mec office in atlanta.....wth a home in ptc and kids and wife in ptc....was claiming he lived in FL and wasnt paying ga taxes.
Unless you are in a operations departmrnt doing the work of a line pilot for state tax planning... you are not a rla worker. Your tax liability is determined by where you produce the income. And the tax law of the state where you are doing so.
Dont complain...athletes and entertainers state tax problems take entire cpa firms to manage.
I was there. And personally involved. As a delta ip, an impacted tax payer, and as part of the organized group to deal with ga when our 'union' cut us loose.
The ga case had nothing to do with a rla legal argument other than to nullify the wide area income production exemption. Which then disqualified training dept pilots as protected rla workers.
The states prevailing legal argument was based on source income. Iow income produced in a fixed geographic location. I.e. a simulator bolted to the ground in atl.
The state selected a single m88 ip and made an initial run at tax liability based on residency. I understand it didnt 'fly'.
Ther is no double jeopardy in tax matters....so ga went back to court and argued source income from a fixed geographic location.
The judge agreed. The state i understand then handed this m88 ip a felony fraud indictment.
Delta was a cooperative witness providing ga all ip personal data. I believe as a means to mitigate the corp liability for failing to begin witholding from employees assigned to non-operations GO departments. As was required by the state.
This is why when delta infomed me of their surrendering my personal data to ga i made the call. As i explained to the states attorney i actually have paid a state tax liability 50% more than ga...her response was..."we dont care...you have defrauded the state of tax revenue...and we will prosecute you to the full extent of the law."
They already had the case law established.
Urban legend? She was the wife of a delta pilot.
Now. Since dalpa never saw a need to have training in the pwa...we were cut loose.
Until....somehow ga found out our mec chair...who made his income in a chair in the mec office in atlanta.....wth a home in ptc and kids and wife in ptc....was claiming he lived in FL and wasnt paying ga taxes.
Unless you are in a operations departmrnt doing the work of a line pilot for state tax planning... you are not a rla worker. Your tax liability is determined by where you produce the income. And the tax law of the state where you are doing so.
Dont complain...athletes and entertainers state tax problems take entire cpa firms to manage.
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Several questions about swap with the pot.
1. When I put in drop #xxxx, then add #xxx I can put in a generic *3 or *4 for any three or four day trip. Question is will the computer view a true 2 day trip that lands at 2350 (releases at 0020) as a 2 day or a 3 day trip? In open time it calls it a 3 day....just wasn’t sure about swap with the pot. It would be a bummer to try and dump a 12 credit 2 day for a *3 to get at least 15:45 only to be surprised to get a 1030 credit 2 day trip that lands at midnight.
2. Under the add section there are multiple lines for you to input as many “add” trips as you want. If I list several trips here do all the trips I list have to be available for It to process or just one of the trips I list? (Hope that makes sense)
1. When I put in drop #xxxx, then add #xxx I can put in a generic *3 or *4 for any three or four day trip. Question is will the computer view a true 2 day trip that lands at 2350 (releases at 0020) as a 2 day or a 3 day trip? In open time it calls it a 3 day....just wasn’t sure about swap with the pot. It would be a bummer to try and dump a 12 credit 2 day for a *3 to get at least 15:45 only to be surprised to get a 1030 credit 2 day trip that lands at midnight.
2. Under the add section there are multiple lines for you to input as many “add” trips as you want. If I list several trips here do all the trips I list have to be available for It to process or just one of the trips I list? (Hope that makes sense)
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Several questions about swap with the pot.
1. When I put in drop #xxxx, then add #xxx I can put in a generic *3 or *4 for any three or four day trip. Question is will the computer view a true 2 day trip that lands at 2350 (releases at 0020) as a 2 day or a 3 day trip? In open time it calls it a 3 day....just wasn’t sure about swap with the pot. It would be a bummer to try and dump a 12 credit 2 day for a *3 to get at least 15:45 only to be surprised to get a 1030 credit 2 day trip that lands at midnight.
2. Under the add section there are multiple lines for you to input as many “add” trips as you want. If I list several trips here do all the trips I list have to be available for It to process or just one of the trips I list? (Hope that makes sense)
1. When I put in drop #xxxx, then add #xxx I can put in a generic *3 or *4 for any three or four day trip. Question is will the computer view a true 2 day trip that lands at 2350 (releases at 0020) as a 2 day or a 3 day trip? In open time it calls it a 3 day....just wasn’t sure about swap with the pot. It would be a bummer to try and dump a 12 credit 2 day for a *3 to get at least 15:45 only to be surprised to get a 1030 credit 2 day trip that lands at midnight.
2. Under the add section there are multiple lines for you to input as many “add” trips as you want. If I list several trips here do all the trips I list have to be available for It to process or just one of the trips I list? (Hope that makes sense)
2. If you input multiple trips on a line, every trip must be available for the swap to go through. If you don't want multiple trips, just add lines below. That's why the swap template has multiple lines. Each is a separate request.
Last edited by Omar 111; 11-02-2017 at 08:23 PM. Reason: Added 0200 for clarity
Guys,
Under the current DL contract, what are pilot's saying regarding the hotels the company is providing for the overnights? Just trying to make an informed comparison to the SWA mentality of almost always putting us up in crappy section 8 motels.
Thanks
Under the current DL contract, what are pilot's saying regarding the hotels the company is providing for the overnights? Just trying to make an informed comparison to the SWA mentality of almost always putting us up in crappy section 8 motels.
Thanks
My very generalized opinion is Delta usually puts me into a better hotel than I'd be willing to pay for if I was road tripping with my family on a personal holiday. Case in point, I'm taking a motorcycle trip with my wife to AVL this weekend. DAL puts us up at the Renaissance right in the middle of downtown. To stay there this weekend would cost me $469/night (which is par for the course for any reputable hotel in downtown AVL over a weekend), I opted for the AirBnB 10 minutes outside of town for $180/night.
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1. Just like it shows in open time; you can pick up a 10.30 3-day trip if it releases after midnight but before 0200.
2. If you input multiple trips on a line, every trip must be available for the swap to go through. If you don't want multiple trips, just add lines below. That's why the swap template has multiple lines. Each is a separate request.
2. If you input multiple trips on a line, every trip must be available for the swap to go through. If you don't want multiple trips, just add lines below. That's why the swap template has multiple lines. Each is a separate request.
Thanks. That’s a bummer about getting a 1030 credit “3” day. I wish there was a way to avoid this when putting in for a generic trip (*4)
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So no. I am not confirming the assertion regarding a rla worker and time of physical presence in a state.
Some states tax any reportable income. Some tax based upon physical presence in the state. And some tax if reportable income exceeds a percentage of total.
I believe ga is still a percentage of income basis for liability. Ip and pilots in traing for long courses will have witholding started by our employer as required by law.
The most important point being if you have economic activity in multiple states, probably the smartest thing to do is hire a really good cpa. Who preferably is also a tax attorney.
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Are our Mad Dogs Cat II capable?
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