sailingfun

This is not correct. Scheduling has 24 hours to correct errors in trip awards.

MoonShot

It's "unfortunate" when guys pick up green slips denying IAs and GSWC. 🙄 GMAB.

Han Solo

Apples and oranges, but you already know that.

EDIT: an easy fix would be a swap in the award order. Put OOB WS below in-base GS and problem solved.

sailingfun

That's not fair, you would be denying some pilot a OOBGS!
To be real every single WS, in base or out of base reduces greenslips. Perhaps we should ban all WS's!
That 3 day in base WS someone took at the start of the month may well cost a pilot a GS at the end of the month.

OldFlyGuy

I don't know about 60 hrs, but I've flown with very senior F/Os who swapped/dropped to be available to GS: ie get the greenie first and worry about filling up to the GS trigger later. Again, very senior and obvious manning issues. I've read these "I never get a GS" posts a million times. AND they never will if they keep volunteering to fly at straight rates. It is their contractual right. But clearly you are solving company manning issues and costing someone else at least double. The company LOVES this. That alone should be enough to consider what you are doing. Also, not just IMO, there is a limit to how much time you can be on the road without damaging your home life. How many straight pay 100 hour block months does it take to cover $2m in a divorce settlement? Also, not just IMO, I never G/S or W/S when we had people on furlough despite being pretty senior and anyone who did is a POS contract or not. OFG

BounceBounceBam

I'm on reserve for the first time in a long time, so this is new to me:

I've been getting "inverse assignment" robocalls at zero dark thirty on my days off. Notwithstanding that it's ridiculous to think that anyone could answer the phone at 0200 and be ready to check in at 0530, how would picking up an inverse assignment even work while on reserve? Would I get double pay, over and above my reserve pay? Would I get double credit toward my reserve commitment? What's the deal?

Check Essential

OldFlyGuy has it exactly right.
Its astounding to me that people can't understand this concept.

The crew schedulers probably have a bell they get to ring every time they cover a trip at straight rates that should have gone green. High-fives all around.

If we had an old school monthly cap with bow-wave and spillback we'd probably have another 1000 captains at this airline.
But no, people want to fly 99 hours a month. They think restrictions on picking up time do nothing but limit their earnings.

Its lunacy, but I guess its an unstoppable trend.

The goal of contract negotiations used to be "More money. More time off."
The second part of that has kinda gone away.

notEnuf

Just one more reason to encourage those junior guys to take the early upgrades. Personally, QOL matters. I seriously doubt I'll upgrade until the kids are out of the house. I'm making NB captain wages in the right seat with waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better schedule now. Add a few greenies and the summer is a lot of fun!

I do get frustrated when I'm due, and see an O (or W) on the coverage list. I get over it with a beer and the phone call the next day.

Han Solo

Google "logical fallacy appeal to extremes". If you can't comprehend the difference between a person who loses out on a GS to a standard WS vs an OOBWS then there's not much sense participating in a discussion with you.

OFG and Chuck are right, a bell goes off and a scheduler gets their wings every time an OOBWS trumps a GS.

tunes

I'm glad there are people like that. It allows me to barely work and stay at home with my family. There is a guy on CC complaining because he can't GS due to the 100 hours in 30 days FAR max. We need to protect ourselves from ourselves first and foremost.