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Old 12-07-2016, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by james014
I have a partial IOE pull for my trip that starts tomorrow. It starts on day 2. In the past they've called by 7 the day before the trip, but those were for full trips. What do they do for partials? There are flights to deviate home from tomorrow, first one is before 7pm second closer to 9pm. Am I going to have to wait until the later flight because they won't tell me until 7pm?

Second question. So you can't schedule your back end deviation until you check in. What if the flight oversells before you check in? Will it still allow you to book on it or are you out of luck for that flight.
On your first question it used to be that if in the middle the LCA would tell you when you are released after sign in. May have changed.
The DH deviation at the back end can only be booked after sign in. If the flight is oversold beyond some level you can't book it. Not sure since you would normally be released at your base if you have a DH to deviate from. If your being released from another base all good.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by james014
I have a partial IOE pull for my trip that starts tomorrow. It starts on day 2. In the past they've called by 7 the day before the trip, but those were for full trips. What do they do for partials? There are flights to deviate home from tomorrow, first one is before 7pm second closer to 9pm. Am I going to have to wait until the later flight because they won't tell me until 7pm?

Second question. So you can't schedule your back end deviation until you check in. What if the flight oversells before you check in? Will it still allow you to book on it or are you out of luck for that flight.
Lately they have been updating partial OE trips the day the OE starts. The last one I had didn't get updated and a call from the scheduler until I blocked in from the leg before the OE started. I don't really think there are any rules as to when they notify you....my experience has been they wait as long as possible lately.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
On your first question it used to be that if in the middle the LCA would tell you when you are released after sign in. May have changed.
The LCA have been taken out of the loop as far as getting released. The OE scheduler updates your schedule and leaves a message when you are released. The LCA will just tell you to call the scheduler if you ask them to release you.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:52 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. Should have just called anyway. It pretty much works like a normal trip pull just at the end of the first day. Said I can call before 7 to see if they have the training info and can build it. From that point I can go on icrew and deviate.
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:26 PM
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LCA bidding question: Is there a way to bid LCA rotations greater than 2 days on the same bid line? There's no "if" statement option following LCA.

I could put "Pairings greater than 2 days" followed immediately by "LCA" but that could hamstring the computer if it needs to finish my line with 1 or 2-day.

Thoughts?
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdUpHere
LCA bidding question: Is there a way to bid LCA rotations greater than 2 days on the same bid line? There's no "if" statement option following LCA.

I could put "Pairings greater than 2 days" followed immediately by "LCA" but that could hamstring the computer if it needs to finish my line with 1 or 2-day.

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Just click the container with "award if LCA," then scroll down to pairing length and click that container and change the drop down to > 2.

It took me a while to realize you could check multiple containers on one line. I think you can used up ton 5 or 6 on one line if you wish.
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by james014
I have a partial IOE pull for my trip that starts tomorrow. It starts on day 2. In the past they've called by 7 the day before the trip, but those were for full trips. What do they do for partials? There are flights to deviate home from tomorrow, first one is before 7pm second closer to 9pm. Am I going to have to wait until the later flight because they won't tell me until 7pm?

Second question. So you can't schedule your back end deviation until you check in. What if the flight oversells before you check in? Will it still allow you to book on it or are you out of luck for that flight.
I just did that, twice - first time scheds said paperwork had to be submitted by the line check guy - that was wrong. So I waited until the O.E. student showed - then the scheduler had to speak to the line check guy directly. Second time in middle of a six day Scheds said they had to speak to the line check pilot, I gave him the phone , got released and was booked on the next flight to my base (it was oversold) it was done automatically once I was released . The line check pilot said there was no requirement to talk to scheds - but being the middle of the rotation there was no automatic release. Be proactive with the line check pilot , never got the same answer even from a supervisor in Schedualing

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Old 12-08-2016, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Just click the container with "award if LCA," then scroll down to pairing length and click that container and change the drop down to > 2.

It took me a while to realize you could check multiple containers on one line. I think you can used up ton 5 or 6 on one line if you wish.
Worked like a champ. Thanks crewdawg.
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Old 12-08-2016, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Even though the FCFEL is never refundable, the FCFL isn't always refundable. You have to inquire with Delta about each particular ticket, since the link to tell you the fare rules is always broken (at least the last several times I've clicked on it over the last couple years).

You don't generate sky miles credit on FCFEL but do on FCFL.
Confirmed for less gives you Sky Miles and indeed is therotically refundable. But just like a normal Delta passenger "fare rules may vary." In my experience it's not worth the miles. On one occasion I had to change the outbound when my kid got selected for a once in a lifetime nationally televised music performance. The change fees exceeded 50% of that particular leg, but here's the really bogus aspect: the change prompted reissue if the entire round trip, and the good deal fare the pricing had been based on was no longer available. Approximately $280 RT turned into $850. So I decided to tell them to pound sound ( in the words an employee can get away with) and decided to standby outbound and use the return Fly Confirmed For Less as originally issued. Turns out that's not allowed! Turns out, if you don't board the first ticketed flight, the balance is invalid. Imagine trying to get out of Florida during spring break after having your positive seat jerked! It was a nightmare! Not to mention money down the drain. I think I got a $120 refund. And an additional $300 penalty in the form of unanticipated hotels. Spousal wrath and impact of kid missing school: priceless! So the additional 5% savings between the Fly Confirmed categories is good money in your pocket vs. too much risk in case of change and the points are an easy bypass, since the program is much less generous than it used to be and the points expire. Fly Confirmed for Even Less is your friend, always resulting in a slam dunk best price in the market, no matter how hard you shop rival carriers on Expedia or whatever. There's nothing like knowing you're going to get there, especially when there's money at stake ( cruise, condo, hotels, etc.) or simply precious family experiences that can be recalled in a fond way .... or not. I highly recommend FCFEL!
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Old 12-08-2016, 09:22 AM
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So is the personal side of the S3 not really your personal side? I tried to install a few programs and they want admin login credentials to complete the install. Chrome installed without admin privileges but not everything else is. Any workarounds?
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