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Old 08-03-2016, 08:14 AM
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I know what the problems are with Zika. I live in Florida. We hear about it almost everyday here. That being said, do you think this is going to stop at the Florida border? It's here. Malaria will be in the not too distant future. Zika might be like the giant Ebola scare of 2015 and die out in a few months. It might not. My guess is that at some point you are going to have to fly into an area that found some mosquitos with Zika.

I guess if the company allows those trips to be dropped without pay it could gain traction, but it will open the Pandora's box of true MED destinations. I have no idea how they could allow people to drop MIA layovers where there have been a handful of Zika cases and force us to fly LOS where there is high malaria and terrorism.
-I never said it'd stop at the border
-I'm a person that will fly to MED destinations. (Hint - I can take Malarone and Malaria can be treated - Zika there is no known treatment)
-My child/future children being at risk for brain defects is not worth it to me.
-Delta has a security team. We have pulled out of unstable markets (IST, CAI, etc.)
-People have been able to refuse MED destinations.

That's fine that Zika doesn't bother you. It's fine that you don't plan on having kids. For people that are not in your situation, it is a big deal.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
We get it Tsquare. If it doesn't impact you personally or increase your hourly rate, you don't care.
played..... out.....
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by smorz
-I never said it'd stop at the border
-I'm a person that will fly to MED destinations. (Hint - I can take Malarone and Malaria can be treated - Zika there is no known treatment)
-My child/future children being at risk for brain defects is not worth it to me.
-Delta has a security team. We have pulled out of unstable markets (IST, CAI, etc.)
-People have been able to refuse MED destinations.

That's fine that Zika doesn't bother you. It's fine that you don't plan on having kids. For people that are not in your situation, it is a big deal.
Malarone is not 100%. You can still get it even taking all the precautiuons. Malaria can be treated, but it can still kill you, and if it doesn't it is with you for life and when it does flare up it is very unpleasant. And fyi, Malaria kills millions of children.

I get your concern. I just don't see how the company will be able to cater to every child bearing age employee. Especially since we are hiring in the numbers we are currently doing so. (Of course like all things in this business, if the pay is increased, somehow the danger level goes down ) It is not an easy issue.

Oh, and I was told when I was assigned LOS that the company would go out of business the next day so I had to go. (sarcasm) It sucked, but at least it was high time. I would love to know how to get out of that the next time I am assigned one.
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Old 08-03-2016, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Malarone is not 100%. You can still get it even taking all the precautiuons. Malaria can be treated, but it can still kill you, and if it doesn't it is with you for life and when it does flare up it is very unpleasant. And fyi, Malaria kills millions of children.

I get your concern. I just don't see how the company will be able to cater to every child bearing age employee. Especially since we are hiring in the numbers we are currently doing so. (Of course like all things in this business, if the pay is increased, somehow the danger level goes down ) It is not an easy issue.

Oh, and I was told when I was assigned LOS that the company would go out of business the next day so I had to go. (sarcasm) It sucked, but at least it was high time. I would love to know how to get out of that the next time I am assigned one.
Risk/reward, a PBS bid should keep you away from those destinations. If not, an AE bid will. I hear NYC M88A is available.
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Old 08-03-2016, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Risk/reward, a PBS bid should keep you away from those destinations. If not, an AE bid will. I hear NYC M88A is available.
Yeah I can avoid it when I bid a regular line. In a vacation month I like to bid reserve since the winter months have a lower ALV, but then it is -as you say- a risk/reward thing. I have been rethinking that strategy.

MD88???? I can't work that hard at my age.
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
I just don't see how the company will be able to cater to every child bearing age employee.
Translation: "Since I'm not personally affected, I'm going to use every possible angle to sell out my fellow pilots, and blame it on the company. Oh, and where is my pay rate increase?"
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Translation: "Since I'm not personally affected, I'm going to use every possible angle to sell out my fellow pilots, and blame it on the company. Oh, and where is my pay rate increase?"
You're as bad as the deposed rep and his Bartels routine...
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Translation: "Since I'm not personally affected, I'm going to use every possible angle to sell out my fellow pilots, and blame it on the company. Oh, and where is my pay rate increase?"
What a vile, angry little man you are. I'll bet you are a pleasure to fly with. I'm guessing it takes you all of 15 minutes to remind everybody of how badly you got ****ed in the merger.
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
I'm guessing it takes you all of 15 minutes to remind everybody of how badly you got ****ed in the merger.
I'm happy with the merger. Saved a lot of guys from getting furloughed. Never once complained about the SLI, ever. However, I am angry when guys like you do everything you can to pretend you're "one of us," but are clearly a management puppet.

You'll get your pay rate increase, tsquare. The only question is whether you will fight to help the rest of the pilot group whose focus is not on hourly pay rates along the way. Actually, it's not much of a question. We already know the answer.

For God and Mother Delta, amirite, my man?
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I'm happy with the merger. Saved a lot of guys from getting furloughed. Never once complained about the SLI, ever. However, I am angry when guys like you do everything you can to pretend you're "one of us," but are clearly a management puppet.

You'll get your pay rate increase, tsquare. The only question is whether you will fight to help the rest of the pilot group whose focus is not on hourly pay rates along the way. Actually, it's not much of a question. We already know the answer.

For God and Mother Delta, amirite, my man?
Sure, whatever you say. You obviously have all the answers. I fall to my knees with awe at your vast wisdom of all things. You're the greatest.
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