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Old 07-26-2016, 07:10 AM
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The info is nearly worthless. It only counts those who have it as one of their top 3. It ignores any condition or restriction.

Bottom line is if you want it, bid it.
Thanks Dirtdriver. Good point about the possible conditions or restrictions one might stipulate.

Does anyone know if these numbers include pilots with the specific category listed as a Displacement preference (either voluntary or mandatory)?
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Old 07-26-2016, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
The info is nearly worthless. It only counts those who have it as one of their top 3. It ignores any condition or restriction.

Bottom line is if you want it, bid it.
What he said! When I got my current bid, that thing said I had 75 people senior to me bidding that seat. Recently I looked at it for another bid and it had 125 senior to me bidding. There ended up being 12 people junior to me that were awarded that position.
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Old 07-26-2016, 07:16 AM
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Thanks crewdawg.
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Old 07-26-2016, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Flybywine
Thanks Dirtdriver. Good point about the possible conditions or restrictions one might stipulate.

Does anyone know if these numbers include pilots with the specific category listed as a Displacement preference (either voluntary or mandatory)?
MDs and VDs are not included.
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pokin
Thanks for the info guys. I appreciate it. I guess I have to decide if the family wedding and a long weekend cabin trip are worth another winter of commuting to reserve in NYC.



Hired in May 2015. Considering going from 85% on the NYC 7ER to 60-70% on either the DTW 73n or DTW 320. I have a buddy who got the 320 on the last bid in May and doesn't start training till September but I have a feeling that has a lot to do with the summer schedule and training could come much quicker this fall.
Welcome to why guys spend decades in the same seat. Most of us can't just block 6 months off of our schedule waiting to find out when we go to training. Once kids are involved, it's even harder.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
What he said! When I got my current bid, that thing said I had 75 people senior to me bidding that seat. Recently I looked at it for another bid and it had 125 senior to me bidding. There ended up being 12 people junior to me that were awarded that position.


Does the number above you include those currently in a seat lock and unable to switch platforms (they just have a standing preference in)?


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Old 07-27-2016, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NavyFlyer
Does the number above you include those currently in a seat lock and unable to switch platforms (they just have a standing preference in)?


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Yes. It is bad numbers in both directions. It could show zero and deny you the bid, or show 100 and you can get it.

Bid what you want, want what you bid.

They would have to run a mock bid to provide any accurate info
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:41 AM
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If I switched to a different category now and then a few years later decided to switch back, do I go through an abbreviated qualification course? How long can you be out of a category and still go through the short course if you come back?
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Old 07-27-2016, 04:53 AM
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If I switched to a different category now and then a few years later decided to switch back, do I go through an abbreviated qualification course? How long can you be out of a category and still go through the short course if you come back?
I believe they use a 2 year look-back. Less than 2 years, some form.of a short course. More than 2, you get the full-monty.
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Old 07-27-2016, 05:29 AM
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One of the top network guys at Delta (Joe...missed his last name) was in the JFK pilot lounge yesterday and gave a presentation.

Here are some of his points:

AIRCRAFT
- 747: there are 7 still flying; they retire Dec 2017. I'm not sure if that will be all 7 or if they'll be down to 1 or 2 by then.
- A359: service from DTW, beginning 3rd Qtr 2017.
- 767: oldest ones in the fleet will be retired, replaced by remaining 333 deliveries (we have 26 now, 5 more coming) and then the 33neo deliveries (25 from '19-'22).
- 757: Network says this jet fills a niche like no other airplane does. Boeing is looking at a 757 replacement aircraft because of this niche. If they build one, Delta wants it.
- A321: 5 now in service; 82 by 2019.
- 739: 60 of the 120 delivered
- MD88: retiring from 2017 - '21. When they come up for their H inspections, they will be "put down." His words...that got a chuckle. Replacing them with the deliveries of A321s, 739s, and CS-100s.
- 717: all 91 delivered
- CS-100: initial bases in LAX, SEA, and then JFK.

NETWORK:
- Delta plans to grow at DFW but, to answer a question from a Texas commuter, has no plans to put a pilot base there. Staying at Love Field and would actually like to get more gates there, pending court action between Dallas and Southwest.
- Growth at LHR enabled by Virgin Atlantic JV. Heathrow is the biggest European business hub.
- Growth in China enabled by China Eastern JV.
- Service to Cuba from JFK starts in December.
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