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Old 04-18-2016, 07:54 AM
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My fellow geniuses, more than one person can post on APC with my user account. I guess you losers take this very seriously, tools.
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Old 04-18-2016, 07:55 AM
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My fellow geniuses, more than one person can post on APC with my user account. I guess you losers take this very seriously, tools.
So let's list the people that post using your APC user account.


Your friend who got hired at the regionals in the 90s.

Your friend who has flown both the A380 and the E190 (and mind you, this friend must be in a category of pilots so small worldwide that it's probably less than a dozen who have flown both of these jets). This friend is almost certainly a design test pilot for a very large airplane manufacturer.

Your MIT graduate friend who got hired at United.

Who else?

Do you all share a house, then?

Or when they are visiting, they borrow your laptop and browse APC?

Or do they just share the account and use it from their homes, because design test pilots, UAL new hires, and regular old pilots who started at the regionals in the 90s want to access airlinepilotcentral.com but they do not want to have their own account -- they must use yours.



Zero credibility.
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NASA
My fellow geniuses, more than one person can post on APC with my user account. I guess you losers take this very seriously, tools.
Ah, yes.

The "Bill Lumbergh" defense.

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Old 04-18-2016, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Better leave the Bentley home for next trip and just bring the Porsche.
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:39 AM
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My fellow geniuses, more than one person can post on APC with my user account. I guess you losers take this very seriously, tools.
b. Accounts

For each site, a user may create, maintain and use no more than one account to post content only on his/her or its own behalf. A user must create his/her or its account personally and manually and may not create accounts by any automated means. Without limitation, this includes the obligation that the user personally and manually solves any CAPTCHA challenge in the account creation process. A user may not create or use additional accounts or any account of another and must not permit, enable, induce or encourage others to create accounts for him/her or it.

Moderators, I am no legal genius, but did he/she admit to violating the terms of service?
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:53 AM
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b. Accounts

For each site, a user may create, maintain and use no more than one account to post content only on his/her or its own behalf. A user must create his/her or its account personally and manually and may not create accounts by any automated means. Without limitation, this includes the obligation that the user personally and manually solves any CAPTCHA challenge in the account creation process. A user may not create or use additional accounts or any account of another and must not permit, enable, induce or encourage others to create accounts for him/her or it.

Moderators, I am no legal genius, but did he/she admit to violating the terms of service?

You are correct. I guess not everyone at "Nasa" is a rocket surgeon.

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Old 04-18-2016, 09:04 AM
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My fellow geniuses, more than one person can post on APC with my user account. I guess you losers take this very seriously, tools.
Is one of them Timmy Martins?
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:55 AM
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My fellow geniuses, more than one person can post on APC with my user account. I guess you losers take this very seriously, tools.
We mistakenly took UAs van in LAS last night. Hope that was you and all your friends.
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Old 04-18-2016, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Not exactly sure of what you are referring to. There are many ways to institute a "Cap." I was not at DAL back when they had a cap but I will take a crack at how I understood it worked. Hopefully one of our elder statesman types can chime in and correct anything below that is incorrect and add to it.

You could credit more than 75 hours but you were only paid for 75 hours.
Any credit above 75 went into a bank system (Bowwave) that would apply to the next/future months.

Not sure how premium flying was paid under this system.

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Yup, that's it in a nutshell. Everyone got capped at 75, even if you ended up re-routed up to 90, or you swapped up to 87, your paycheck was only going to be for 75, the rest was your 'Bow Wave' for your next month's bid, ie you could bid a low time line, even drop a trip down to 55 and if you had a 20 hour bow wave, that would be used to bring you up to 75 for that month.

Getting a Greenslip or an Assignment were the only two ways you could get paid more than 75 hours.

You also had the option of depositing some of your bow wave into your 'Bank' which unlike bow wave, did NOT go to fill up your next month, but it would just sit there, accumulating up to +60 max. Smart guys would fill up their bank as senior in one seat, then upgrade and use 5 hours a month to help fill up in their new, higher paying position. Put it in a F/O rates, pull it out at Capt. rates.

In 1981, when the controllers went on strike, Delta stopped hiring and waited 4 years to begin hiring again. In that time, they were abusing mostly the Flight Engineers, with jetway assignments, because they had run out of engineers. When their bow waves got to 200 hours, the company froze them, to keep them from using them to drop entire months. When I was hired in 1985, many of the engineers had 200 hour frozen bow waves, which were finally 'unfrozen' when us newbies showed up. Crew scheduling would call me and say, "You've got line number 12."

I was the bottom 727 F/E in MIA, but I was flying one of the best lines, because the senior F/E who bid it dropped the entire line and used his bow wave to be paid for it.

Most of our lines were built with four 3 day trips, or three 4 day trips, for around 75 hours +/- a few hours. 72-78 was the typical range. Domestic line, you typically worked 12 days a month for the 75ish line value. You could swap above that, but there were limits there too, like no more than the shortest trip on your line prior to the 20th or some such, but again, the amount over 75 was going to be bow wave. I actually had a crew scheduler call me to tell me they had to drop a 4 day trip because I was 'over projected' (to more than 75) due to a reroute.

Fast fwd to PBS rules (Fly to the FAR's!, 100 hours in 28 days!) and then do the math.

See how many 777/747/A330/767-400 jobs that's costing you?
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Old 04-18-2016, 12:36 PM
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Besides the "cap" we also had a very useful "trips touching" rule. The right line of time could turn a one-week vacation into nearly a month off, at full pay.
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