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Old 04-13-2016, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MOTOJOE
So, if you were awarded something on the last AE. And next one comes out, can you be awarded something else if you havn't gone to training or been converted yet?
Not if you have a freeze. You can't be awarded new equipment if you have a freeze, even if you haven't gone to training. (unless it's a new category or your first time Captain upgrade).

You can get a different base on your existing equipment though.
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Old 04-13-2016, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotc90a
Since Crew Scheduling suggested that AE's will be distributed in 6 week increments, shouldn't we be ready for another one fairly soon? This may have been disseminated in a some newsletter, but I am trying to control my blood pressure and don't read too many of those....
Company has stated next one would be May or June, and would be much smaller than the last one.
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Old 04-13-2016, 05:41 PM
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I can't seem to be able to comment on the Cheerios thread. Really wanted too.
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Old 04-14-2016, 04:50 AM
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On my last trip my captain had 2 legs on 2 separate days cancelled due to a lack of 717 FOs. The FA listening to the story said she heard it was because we were executing an illegal job action (very similar to another story I heard on this board about what a gate agent had heard). I explained how these shortages are due to poor hiring decisions, the recent simulator move, and that many 717 FOs are working 20+ days a month. I have no idea if she believed me or not, she seemed fairly certain that pilots were out to screw the company and may have just been nodding and grinning just to play along.

So that said, where are the non-cons getting the idea that illegal job actions are going on? Is somebody up the chain maliciously spreading lies in a coordinated PR campaign or are they just jumping to their own conclusions since it is quite unusual for DAL to cancel flights due to a lack of pilots? I wish I'd spent more time discussing how she'd come up with that idea.
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Old 04-14-2016, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
On my last trip my captain had 2 legs on 2 separate days cancelled due to a lack of 717 FOs. The FA listening to the story said she heard it was because we were executing an illegal job action (very similar to another story I heard on this board about what a gate agent had heard). I explained how these shortages are due to poor hiring decisions, the recent simulator move, and that many 717 FOs are working 20+ days a month. I have no idea if she believed me or not, she seemed fairly certain that pilots were out to screw the company and may have just been nodding and grinning just to play along.

So that said, where are the non-cons getting the idea that illegal job actions are going on? Is somebody up the chain maliciously spreading lies in a coordinated PR campaign or are they just jumping to their own conclusions since it is quite unusual for DAL to cancel flights due to a lack of pilots? I wish I'd spent more time discussing how she'd come up with that idea.
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This is not unusual. A lot of times the other employee groups jump to their own conclusions about things. When we were bringing guys back from furlough the company did it at a glacial pace and we didn't have enough pilots to fly the schedule. When a flight is cancelled it is coded to explain why it was cancelled. There were a ton of flights coded to Flight Operations - crew availability. This was also during the time that we were in extreme backwards negotiations with the company. So other employee groups see the reason for the cancel and make the wrong assumption.
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Old 04-14-2016, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
On my last trip my captain had 2 legs on 2 separate days cancelled due to a lack of 717 FOs. The FA listening to the story said she heard it was because we were executing an illegal job action (very similar to another story I heard on this board about what a gate agent had heard). I explained how these shortages are due to poor hiring decisions, the recent simulator move, and that many 717 FOs are working 20+ days a month. I have no idea if she believed me or not, she seemed fairly certain that pilots were out to screw the company and may have just been nodding and grinning just to play along.

So that said, where are the non-cons getting the idea that illegal job actions are going on? Is somebody up the chain maliciously spreading lies in a coordinated PR campaign or are they just jumping to their own conclusions since it is quite unusual for DAL to cancel flights due to a lack of pilots? I wish I'd spent more time discussing how she'd come up with that idea.
Fox news carried the story that dal pilots were near a job action on 1 apr. i think they got the scoop from that NTSB kid who coined Sum Ting Wong, etc. anyway, the story was picked up at other news outlets.
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Old 04-14-2016, 05:40 AM
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Crew hotel recommendations for EWR? Anyone? Hilton says no discount.
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Old 04-14-2016, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncos
Company has stated next one would be May or June, and would be much smaller than the last one.
Too bad, nice to see things moving in the right direction these days.
(and I am talking only about the seniority list advancement. So no crap about my positive attitude!)
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Old 04-14-2016, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Fox news carried the story that dal pilots were near a job action on 1 apr. i think they got the scoop from that NTSB kid who coined Sum Ting Wong, etc. anyway, the story was picked up at other news outlets.
Woah, wait a minute. Some Ting Wong and Wi Tu Lo didn't fly a 777 into the seawall at SFO? I saw the footage man, it happened.
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Old 04-14-2016, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Crew hotel recommendations for EWR? Anyone? Hilton says no discount.
courtyard at the airport is about $107 out the door with taxes. Quick shuttle as well. Always gave me an "airline" discount. Fairfield will do the same.
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