MOTOJOE

does anyone know can you watch movies from the pilot rest facility on the b777 in the two chairs in front of the bunks?

scambo1

There are no video monitors. If you are using at rest wifi, I believe you can watch delta cinema on a device. I've never tried but don't know why it wouldn't work.

capncrunch

I may be wrong but I think they can assign SC at 10:38 with the 2 hr call out getting him there at 12:38. At least that's what they do to me on my first day back, 10am SC.

Jughead135

What were you awarded for March, i.e., were you RES or REG? I realize you didn't actually fly any of your March schedule (if 28 - 31 Mar is OE). Your status upon release on the 31st will determine the "earliest you can be assigned": If you're REG in March, you have no obligation to check your schedule, thus they can't require you to acknowledge* anything starting earlier than 10 hours after the end of your rest (12 hours after if it's not on your schedule by 9 hours prior to the end of the rest); if you're RES in March, you must check your schedule before release, and you may have a trip or SC assigned starting as early as the end of your rest. In the latter case, if nothing's there when you do that check, then you're back to nothing earlier than 10 (or 12) hours after the end of the rest.

*Doesn't mean they won't go fishing & put something on your schedule--which, if you then acknowledge it, it's yours.... Don't fall into that trap....

Jughead135

Ah, good point, hadn't considered that....

Sorry to be the dense one here, but I don't follow. Are you saying so because of contractual limits on the ALV, or am I missing a bigger picture somewhere?

Thanks both for the replies--still furthering my education here...!

Check Essential

Scoop is exactly correct. Letting them make July and August into 30 day months was an enormous concession. We lost ~400 to 500 pilots and gave up a boatload of greenslips and other premium flying opportunities when we allowed that change. Delta had historically always had to hire pilots and staff the airline based on July and August. Now they need fewer pilots in July and August.

Jughead - As an example -- If the summer ALV is 85 hours in a category it allows the company to jam that 85 hours into 30 days rather than 31.
Management scored a big "productivity" increase in the most critical months. It essentially shifted some of our days off into the spring and fall when the schedule is lighter and the ALVs are lower and the company doesn't need us flying as much anyway.

Flamer

I've seen a lot of the fishing you are talking about. Which is the same as lying in my book.

Know the contract. Never answer your phone.

caddis

Talking to one of the reps, one that voted no, the job cost was 125. I will place the caveat that the number may have been all of TA12, but I thought it was the summer change.

One thing I find interesting is guys are all for pay banding but if we go all in that is up to 800 jobs.

scambo1

There is inefficiency in training (lost productivity) and a widely varied fleet (potentially more training). But, there is equity in banding.

Pay banding wouldn't end training. And all changes aren't necessarily a net negative. There are pilots who much prefer the flying done on the 717 over that done on the 777. There are also pilots who preference the opposite.

I don't think banding would change all AE bidding patterns. And IMO, the "up to 800 jobs" is only the worst possible case on a mother of all bid situation. That can't happen.

Did we lose 800 jobs when the airline was basically static (no significant training) from 2005-merger? No.

Scoop

Jughead,

Some other guys have already answered this but it can be a hard concept to grasp so I will add to the discussion. Keep in mind this is a simplification, but the logic is sound.

We currently have 30 and 31 day months in our schedule. Just going by straight numbers the 31 day month would require about 3.3% more Pilots to staff at the same level. Since the manning level does not change month to month we may be considered as over-manned in the 30 day months because we are manned to fly 31 day months.

But as it happens our busiest flying months were July and August which were both 31 day months. So the company manned the airline at a level that could satisfy 31 days of our heaviest flying. On any other month of 31 days we have less flying so they were covered, and we were naturally covered for the 30 day months.

Then in C-2012 we agreed to allow DAL to schedule July and August as 30 day bid packages even though the months have 31 days. So now the heaviest flying months are 30 days long and DAL can theoretically man the same level of coverage with 3.3% less Pilots.

Even though there are other 31 day months the number of Pilots required is less than the manning required for 30 days of July and August flying.

In summation, DAL historically manned to their heaviest flying months - July and August, so by going "off-calendar" we reduced their Pilot requirement by 3.3%.

Additionally this directly affects over 13,000 DAL Pilots both line-holder and reserve, which is why many consider it the biggest concession of C-2012.

Scoop