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Old 07-10-2015, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by casual observer
The letter about how we were the best paid and how we weren't going to get a better deal from RA was pretty hard to swallow.

The company is making record profits, the other stakeholders have and are profiting and Delta pilot performance is outstanding and essential.

Why should it be a surprise that we aren't doing back flips for a contact that just now finally gets us back to 2000 rates.

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I was flying with a guy that was on the fence, that letter drove him over to the no side....
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Old 07-10-2015, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The stock is up almost 5% today leading the industry rally.
Here is one of the first articles on the financial side.


(Adds Boeing decline-to-comment, analyst estimate, background)

By Jeffrey Dastin

July 10 (Reuters) - Delta Air Lines Inc pilots have rejected a tentative contract agreement, casting in doubt both the labor deal and the airline's plans to order extra planes from the Boeing Co.

Nearly 7,000, or 65 percent, of voting pilots rejected the contract, according to Delta's Master Executive Council, part of the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA). Some 97 percent of eligible pilots voted.

The contract's rejection was a mixed blessing for the airline, whose shares rose nearly 5 percent. Hourly pay would have risen 8 percent upon signing, trimming third quarter earnings per share by 10 cents to $1.66, according to one analyst's estimate.

Delta has said it would purchase 20 used and 40 new single-aisle aircraft from Boeing to replace planes scheduled to retire through 2019 if the new contract was ratified. The orders were not firm.

Delta and Boeing declined to comment. Boeing had been trying to finalize an agreement to sell the jets to Delta for months.

Delta pilots opposed to the proposed contract said it offered slight gains in light of Delta's growing profits and that higher wages meant sacrificing more-lucrative profit-sharing. They said changes in sick leave and other work rules offset the gains, criticism the union has called deceptive.

The Delta unit of ALPA will convene on July 21 to determine its next step and reassess its strategic plan, its Chairman Mike Donatelli said in a letter to pilots.

Although investors reacted favorably to the news, the negative vote is a setback for Delta, which set a goal of concluding a labor deal months ahead of schedule.

In a fact sheet for pilots, the union quoted Delta's Chief Executive Officer Richard Anderson as saying, "Failure to ratify the agreement will lead to a very different and longer path that will not result in a better deal. Uncertainty will prevail, and that will not be good for anybody."

Delta said it could not confirm the comment.

The pilots' current contract has a Dec. 31 target date for revision. That contract will remain in place even if the airline misses the deadline, as has been the case for some of Delta's U.S. peers. While strikes rarely ever result, prolonged talks strain labor relations.

Both the pilots union and management had backed the tentative agreement.

(Reporting by Jeffrey Dastin in New York, editing by Joe White and Christian Plumb)
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Old 07-10-2015, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The stock is up almost 5% today leading the industry rally.
It didn't lead anything Sailingfun. The daily chart of DAL stock looks identical to the SP500.

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Old 07-10-2015, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Reuters)...Delta pilots opposed to the proposed contract said it offered slight gains in light of Delta's growing profits and that higher wages meant sacrificing more-lucrative profit-sharing. They said changes in sick leave and other work rules offset the gains, criticism the union has called deceptive.
Delta pilots' criticism of the TA is deceptive. Interesting.
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:38 PM
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He's Smiling, today

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Old 07-10-2015, 07:48 PM
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we'll done ladies and gentlemen, well done!
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
Delta pilots' criticism of the TA is deceptive. Interesting.
I think that comment was one of the "facts" (without emotion) stated in the last Contrails.
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
In a fact sheet for pilots, the union quoted Delta's Chief Executive Officer Richard Anderson as saying, "Failure to ratify the agreement will lead to a very different and longer path that will not result in a better deal. Uncertainty will prevail, and that will not be good for anybody."

Delta said it could not confirm the comment.
Hmmm.... Didn't Delta's SVP for Flight Ops send it out in an email to all pilots??
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Old 07-10-2015, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
It didn't lead anything Sailingfun. The daily chart of DAL stock looks identical to the SP500.

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Well it beat LUV, UAL, AAL to lead the airline sector.
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Old 07-11-2015, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Well it beat LUV, UAL, AAL to lead the airline sector.

Not if you're not including Alaska +6.03% or Virgin America +5.79%. Delta was +4.71%


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