Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Yeah, good work rules. Improved reroute. Improved end of the month spillover protection. Better rotation construction. 600 new pilots, with half that number new Captains. So I don't see the 8% seniority loss, especially since OE removal can only occur in base.
Not kidding.
Not kidding.
Well apparently 8 Reps didn't that they were that good.
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Off the top of my head, we have 3.B.4, joint venture grievance, and retaining the current profit sharining measuring metric to offset any increase in hourly wage. (I don't mention profit sharing itself 'cause that's a swap. We will get that either way.) How much is this potentially worth? Based on the company giving at least 3% raises a year to the non union employees since 2009, I'm guessing anywhere from 3 to 7 percent a year. Get 3 or 4 percent from 3.B.4, and 1 to 1.5 percent each for JV grievance and not changing PS metric.
All the factors I listed are "potential." But I certainly believe the potential of them coming true is at least 70/30 if not better.
Denny
All the factors I listed are "potential." But I certainly believe the potential of them coming true is at least 70/30 if not better.
Denny
The word on 3.B.4 has got to get out! Plus our current profit sharing makes this contract 'Concessions for FREE'!
I just got the latest union table talk, and once again is comparing the TA raises to 0%, which is a terrible misrepresentation given 3.B.4. The way things are being twisted to make the coveted pay raise look decent is inexcusable.
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I assume you're referring to the EMB order hinging (supposedly) on this TA. Quote us where that these airplanes are growth? The -88s are getting long in the tooth. How do you know that these are not replacements? We all know that the industry loves frequency over capacity. Otherwise, why not send one 747 to TLH a day vs. 3 -88s?
More pilots on the seniority list is a good thing, but not at the expense of higher paying positions that they would replace.
More pilots on the seniority list is a good thing, but not at the expense of higher paying positions that they would replace.
The 40 new 737-900ERs are in addition to 100 of the type already ordered by Delta. The aircraft will enter Delta’s fleet through 2019, replacing older narrowbodies.
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Delta to order 40 more 737-900ERs, add 20 E-190s to mainline fleet | Airframes content from ATWOnline
The 40 new 737-900ERs are in addition to 100 of the type already ordered by Delta. The aircraft will enter Delta’s fleet through 2019, replacing older narrowbodies.
The 40 new 737-900ERs are in addition to 100 of the type already ordered by Delta. The aircraft will enter Delta’s fleet through 2019, replacing older narrowbodies.
I'm impressed and we are getting ahead of the curve. Perhaps the -900s were -88 replacements all along. The -900 will fill that void nicely. Typical Boeing reliability and they sip fuel in contrast.
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Delta to order 40 more 737-900ERs, add 20 E-190s to mainline fleet | Airframes content from ATWOnline
The 40 new 737-900ERs are in addition to 100 of the type already ordered by Delta. The aircraft will enter Delta’s fleet through 2019, replacing older narrowbodies.
The 40 new 737-900ERs are in addition to 100 of the type already ordered by Delta. The aircraft will enter Delta’s fleet through 2019, replacing older narrowbodies.
Ready to talk scope yet with me there Unity by Design?
Carl
Perfect timing.
Carl
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Please....... His title is FO rep. Not CA rep, not company rep.
One can argue that this TA is more detrimental to FOs than CAs thanks to the OE holdback carve out. No surprise there. DAL knows our demographics. With so many guys/gals approaching retirement do you really think that the company would court the folks in the minority?
Nestor may think he is helping the pilot group as a whole (I strongly disagree) by endorsing this thing, but that is not the point. His role is to represent the FOs. There is no way he could look me in the eye and tell me this is a good deal for FOs and have me believe him. He's a ladder climber if I've ever seen one. He's bragged about how his father was in "executive level" corporate business. My guess is that is his aim with respect to the union. Any means justify the end. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.
One can argue that this TA is more detrimental to FOs than CAs thanks to the OE holdback carve out. No surprise there. DAL knows our demographics. With so many guys/gals approaching retirement do you really think that the company would court the folks in the minority?
Nestor may think he is helping the pilot group as a whole (I strongly disagree) by endorsing this thing, but that is not the point. His role is to represent the FOs. There is no way he could look me in the eye and tell me this is a good deal for FOs and have me believe him. He's a ladder climber if I've ever seen one. He's bragged about how his father was in "executive level" corporate business. My guess is that is his aim with respect to the union. Any means justify the end. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.
The 73-9 etops is a 4000+ mile range jet that can fly east coast to Europe with flag reserves.
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Hurt the pilots he represents? Please...
Let's go plead our case of persecution over a TA that provides industry leading pay, a good profit sharing plan, best in the industry sick leave per year, better than average verification requirements, the best disability program, good workrules, and shifting of DCI flying to mainline and 600 new jobs.
Hurt? Right.
Let's go plead our case of persecution over a TA that provides industry leading pay, a good profit sharing plan, best in the industry sick leave per year, better than average verification requirements, the best disability program, good workrules, and shifting of DCI flying to mainline and 600 new jobs.
Hurt? Right.
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