Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-15-2015, 04:57 PM
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Listen to Timbo, please don't end up with crappy "Golden Years." The big guys will take you down without hesitation. Boink 'em in the nose for all the guys who got hammered.
06-15-2015, 06:15 PM
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Front-end Dh deviation obligations?
Getting ready to deviate on the front of a rotation.
What (if any) obligation do I have re backup flights (a la "unable to commute" and/or "call in honest" for commuting)? Does that answer change if one (or more) of the planned flight(s) is offline? DCI?
I guess I'm asking, does having a PS seat change the equation? "What if" the flight I'm PS on delays or cancels--what's my status?
[I get that the scheduled DH flight could also delay/cancel, and so it "shouldn't make any difference"--but I suspect it does....]
What (if any) obligation do I have re backup flights (a la "unable to commute" and/or "call in honest" for commuting)? Does that answer change if one (or more) of the planned flight(s) is offline? DCI?
I guess I'm asking, does having a PS seat change the equation? "What if" the flight I'm PS on delays or cancels--what's my status?
[I get that the scheduled DH flight could also delay/cancel, and so it "shouldn't make any difference"--but I suspect it does....]
06-15-2015, 06:44 PM
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Getting ready to deviate on the front of a rotation.
What (if any) obligation do I have re backup flights (a la "unable to commute" and/or "call in honest" for commuting)? Does that answer change if one (or more) of the planned flight(s) is offline? DCI?
I guess I'm asking, does having a PS seat change the equation? "What if" the flight I'm PS on delays or cancels--what's my status?
[I get that the scheduled DH flight could also delay/cancel, and so it "shouldn't make any difference"--but I suspect it does....]
What (if any) obligation do I have re backup flights (a la "unable to commute" and/or "call in honest" for commuting)? Does that answer change if one (or more) of the planned flight(s) is offline? DCI?
I guess I'm asking, does having a PS seat change the equation? "What if" the flight I'm PS on delays or cancels--what's my status?
[I get that the scheduled DH flight could also delay/cancel, and so it "shouldn't make any difference"--but I suspect it does....]
If you are on a PS DH deviation that meets all of the DH criteria then you are 100% covered. You would do the exact same thing you would do if your scheduled DH has issues - call scheduling ASAP and explain your situation.
Be advised, I am referring to PS DH Deviation which requires a Delta or DCI flight scheduled through I-crew. If you are deviating offline you are on your own.
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06-15-2015, 07:08 PM
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They aren't being terminated because it is hard to prove and you know that Carl. I'm not defending this thing, but good grief, this is exactly like not being able to prove the actual existence of new planets or black holes, but rather by observing their effect on other bodies. dALPA would HAVE to defend those people if the company tried to terminate them based on this kind of circumstantial evidence and would more than likely win which is probably why the company doesn't prosecute. I don't know enough about this thing at this point to render a decision one way or the other, but your contention is silly.
As for a bank causing people to fly sick, what horse hockey. Every pilot knows that flying "sick" or with just a little congestion can result in life altering damage and and end to ones' flying career. At the least it could mean 6 months out for a blown ear drum. Hardly anyone is that stupid. Hardly... except maybe the NC.... :roll eyes:
06-15-2015, 07:31 PM
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If you are on a PS DH deviation that meets all of the DH criteria then you are 100% covered. You would do the exact same thing you would do if your scheduled DH has issues - call scheduling ASAP and explain your situation.
Be advised, I am referring to PS DH Deviation which requires a Delta or DCI flight scheduled through I-crew. If you are deviating offline you are on your own.
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Be advised, I am referring to PS DH Deviation which requires a Delta or DCI flight scheduled through I-crew. If you are deviating offline you are on your own.
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Understood, offline and/or not having the specified time dictated in §8.E does not count.
06-16-2015, 02:50 AM
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Just been 23k removed from my trip tmrw. The original report time was 0515. I understand I have to be available the first 6 hours, but do I need to be in position...ie: 6 hours of Shortcall type availability? 0515 isn't commutable for me. Can I go home & wait for an assignment or am I stuck here in base?
06-16-2015, 03:12 AM
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Just been 23k removed from my trip tmrw. The original report time was 0515. I understand I have to be available the first 6 hours, but do I need to be in position...ie: 6 hours of Shortcall type availability? 0515 isn't commutable for me. Can I go home & wait for an assignment or am I stuck here in base?
06-16-2015, 03:23 AM
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Ok thanks! But if I understand it correctly after the first 6 hours & no assignments then I'm done?
06-16-2015, 03:40 AM
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06-16-2015, 03:45 AM
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Thankyou Sir! Maybe I'll hang out in ops for those 6 hours and pass out con papers.
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