I think you also get paid above guarantee on the first day of the GS regardless of if it was a reserve day elsewhere. After you start the trip look at your time card in icrew.

06-15-2015, 06:03 AM

#183872

ilinipilot

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Joined APC: Jun 2009

Posts: 121

More LCA information PS Its not good

X. The Company will designate rotations that have been awarded to Line Check Pilots that

contain the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator

training in the bid period. Following the award of rotations to First Officers that contain

at least 25% of the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete

simulator training in the bid period, the Company may withhold from awarding to First

Officers the remainder of such designated rotations. The projection of OE/TOE block

hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator training in the bid period will be

calculated as follows:

a. 15 block hours for each transitioning narrowbody Captain or First Officer

b. 25 block hours for each first time narrowbody Captain

c. 40 block hours for each new hire in a narrowbody category

d. 50 block hours for each transitioning First Officer from a narrowbody category to a

widebody category

e. 60 block hours for each first time Captain transitioning from a narrowbody category

to a widebody category

f. 75 block hours for each new hire in widebody category

34 8. A regular line will be constructed from published rotations to achieve

This is the contract section pertaining to LCA trip removal. I am concerned the company now has carte blanche to remove any trips they want. Hear me out. The language says the company can remove 75% of the hours. There is no qualifier like the 25 most senior trip are not removed, not a combination of ioe/toe hours nope. The contract as written just establishes a total hours allowed for removal that month. The company than has the ability to pick which hours it removes and which stay. That's it. What is to stop the company from removing all the day trips, two day trips, five day trips and most importantly for you ER guys................
All the international trips. Just imagine for a minute how wonderful your senior schedules can be with 75% of the LCA trips that are removed are all the good international ones.
Good luck

DDM

06-15-2015, 07:13 AM

#183873

iaflyer

seeing the large hubs...

Joined APC: Oct 2006

Position: 73N A

Posts: 3,747

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeF16

I think I already know the answer to this but I'll ask anyway.

Any way to get off the autobot notification system for inverse assignments? Keep getting these 0300-0400 phone calls. I can turn my cell ringer off but they always call the home phone immediately after which I cannot easily silence. The IAs are impossible to commute to so even if I had the desire I wouldn't have the ability to make it. Plus the ridiculously early phone calls would have interfered with any crew rest I might have had.

The only option I really see is removing my home phone number. I'm not even sure if there is a major negative other than having a good backup for a GS if my cell is inop or I accidentally leave the ringer off.

There is no way to "turn off" inverse assignment calls. The best way I have using a Google voice number as a backup to my cell, that way if the cell number is down or something at least I'll see it via Google Voice.

06-15-2015, 07:30 AM

#183874

gzsg

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Joined APC: Oct 2009

Posts: 3,108

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilinipilot

X. The Company will designate rotations that have been awarded to Line Check Pilots that

contain the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator

training in the bid period. Following the uaward of rotations to First Officers that contain

at least 25% of the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete

If they did this to captains, this place would be lit on fire..

Captain Jerry Fielding

simulator training in the bid period, the Company may withhold from awarding to First

Officers the remainder of such designated rotations. The projection of OE/TOE block

hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator training in the bid period will be

calculated as follows:

a. 15 block hours for each transitioning narrowbody Captain or First Officer

b. 25 block hours for each first time narrowbody Captain

c. 40 block hours for each new hire in a narrowbody category

d. 50 block hours for each transitioning First Officer from a narrowbody category to a

widebody category

e. 60 block hours for each first time Captain transitioning from a narrowbody category

to a widebody category

f. 75 block hours for each new hire in widebody category

If they did this to captains, this place would be lit on fire.

Captain Jerry Fielding

06-15-2015, 08:06 AM

#183875

Dash8widget

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Joined APC: Feb 2008

Position: SLC ERB

Posts: 467

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilinipilot

X. The Company will designate rotations that have been awarded to Line Check Pilots that

contain the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator

training in the bid period. Following the award of rotations to First Officers that contain

at least 25% of the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete

simulator training in the bid period, the Company may withhold from awarding to First

Officers the remainder of such designated rotations. The projection of OE/TOE block

hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator training in the bid period will be

calculated as follows:

a. 15 block hours for each transitioning narrowbody Captain or First Officer

b. 25 block hours for each first time narrowbody Captain

c. 40 block hours for each new hire in a narrowbody category

d. 50 block hours for each transitioning First Officer from a narrowbody category to a

widebody category

e. 60 block hours for each first time Captain transitioning from a narrowbody category

to a widebody category

f. 75 block hours for each new hire in widebody category

From what I read of the above, FO lines are built as normal until 25% of the OE flying has been awarded. At that point, the remaining OE trips are pulled. So you're partially right - the company gets to choose which trips are tagged for OE, but they don't get to choose specifically which trips are part of the 25% that get awarded.

It still sucks though, and is the primary reason I'm voting no.

06-15-2015, 08:22 AM

#183876

tim123

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Joined APC: Jan 2008

Position: 320A

Posts: 333

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble

The ALPA constitution and bylaws are clear: nothing can stop a rep from communicating with his pilots.

Then why hasn't the union put out pro/cons like previous contracts?

Last edited by tim123; 06-15-2015 at 08:23 AM. Reason: spelling

06-15-2015, 08:27 AM

#183877

BenderRodriguez

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Joined APC: Dec 2014

Posts: 1,184

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

BS. If there were people abusing the system, they'd be terminated. People aren't being terminated. End of story. Regarding the rest of your post, there's much more to this now. Read the actual TA language and see for yourself.

Carl - the idiot

They aren't being terminated because it is hard to prove and you know that Carl. I'm not defending this thing, but good grief, this is exactly like not being able to prove the actual existence of new planets or black holes, but rather by observing their effect on other bodies. dALPA would HAVE to defend those people if the company tried to terminate them based on this kind of circumstantial evidence and would more than likely win which is probably why the company doesn't prosecute. I don't know enough about this thing at this point to render a decision one way or the other, but your contention is silly.

06-15-2015, 08:28 AM

#183878

tim123

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Joined APC: Jan 2008

Position: 320A

Posts: 333

Quote:

Originally Posted by satchip

I don't know labor law, just repeating what I was told. JS yesterday was a Delta CA who used to be on a regional MEC. He told us the MEC is forbidden by law from recommending a no vote. They can't trash the agreement.

Like I say, not a labor lawyer.

Since the MEC did not endorse this TA is that why they can't recommend a no vote?

06-15-2015, 08:40 AM

#183879

flyallnite

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Joined APC: Dec 2009

Position: Stay THIRSTY, my friends!

Posts: 1,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez

I agree that the company has a difficult time 'getting rid' of ALLEGED sick leave offenders. This is a problem that the company created, and is now looking to 'solve' that problem with an extremely burdensome, and in my view, potentially threatening apparatus. There are many, many ways to administer sick leave that would reduce abuse, without such a scheme. A bank system for instance. So the obvious question is, why this scheme? Because if we buy off on it, the company will have enormous power over each and every one of us, SHOULD THE NEED ARISE.

On a tangent here, but all I hear about bank systems is that 'people will fly sick'. Here are my thoughts on that:

1. I don't hear my buddies at AMR, UAL, FEdEx and SWA complaining about that issue.

2. We are professionals, we want to be treated as such, and part of that is lawfully deciding we are not fit to fly. I know I don't want to fly when I'm sick!

3. If someone 'abuses' the bank system by showing up sick, then it falls on us, fellow crew members, to enforce a no-tolerance sick policy of our own. As in "You appear to be sick. Please call in sick now, or I will be forced to handle this through the CPO and/or Pro. Stands. You have put me in this position, now you must do something about it or I will". This isn't captain only, it goes for both seats.

4. I believe that if we pass this TA, we will actually have many more people flying sick than any other scheme, as the penalty for not doing so involves an intrusive and potentially damaging investigation by a company AME with your medical on the line.