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Old 06-14-2015, 07:47 PM
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Shirley if there are enough guys/gals filling out DPA cards to force a vote, there will be enough votes to vote this down!?!

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Old 06-14-2015, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Shirley if there are enough guys/gals filling out DPA cards to force a vote, there will be enough votes to vote this down!?!

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I'm not asking this in a sarcastic way, to be clear...

Do you really think this will be enough of a push to force a vote?

(I'm not putting in a card, personally)
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I'm not asking this in a sarcastic way, to be clear...

Do you really think this will be enough of a push to force a vote?

(I'm not putting in a card, personally)
I don't know the answer to that but it sure seems like a lot of new/renewed cards are going in...

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Old 06-15-2015, 01:24 AM
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Mine is as soon as I can. Let it expire hoping ALPA would change their ways of doing business but alas, they have not.
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I don't know labor law, just repeating what I was told. JS yesterday was a Delta CA who used to be on a regional MEC. He told us the MEC is forbidden by law from recommending a no vote. They can't trash the agreement.

Like I say, not a labor lawyer.
Same thing happened to Pinnacle a few years ago with a crap TA1 that was put to the pilots for vote, they (ALPA) tried to sell the crap sandwich to the pilots via roadshows, it also was the company's last, best and final offer. At the roadshows everyone could tell the MEC chairman and a few others were not in favor of the TA, however they couldn't come out and say vote no, but it was pretty obvious they torpedoed the TA and it got voted down by the pilots. Looking back, we should have probably voted yes for that TA, we would made a lot more money and been way better off then waiting 6+ years for a contract.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:38 AM
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You're comparing apples and marshmallows.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Absolutely incredible. This is the kind of answers people will be getting at the road shows. This MEC administration will stop at nothing to get this passed. Nothing.

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And most of the MEC, or they would stop it.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus


Let us take a walk down memory lane, to the time Compass got kicked out of the DL MEC and Moak & Co billed us six figures for "services rendered" over the previous two years even though we'd been operating on a shoestring budget with miniscule amounts of FPL (As JSC, I couldn't even get bought off a 3-day trip to attend the national jumpseat conference). Our pilot coordinator / interim MEC chairman wished to communicate our dire financial situation with the membership at large. He was repeatedly prevented from doing so by ALPA lawyers. We dug our way out of the hole and built up a decent war chest for our first negotiations thanks to the stewardship of our first MEC & particularly the sec-treas - but the membership never did learn the details other than through back channels.

I have no trouble believing LEC reps are being given a gag order.
While I certainly believe your story above may have happened ( it sounds credible), your old MEC chair was not LEGALLY prohibited from communicating with his pilots. Sounds to me like he was given, and followed, bad legal advice.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Shirley if there are enough guys/gals filling out DPA cards to force a vote, there will be enough votes to vote this down!?!

Denny
Yes, yes there will.

And don't call me Shirley.

You know you've wanted to see it, so here it is!


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Old 06-15-2015, 05:10 AM
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I think I already know the answer to this but I'll ask anyway.

Any way to get off the autobot notification system for inverse assignments? Keep getting these 0300-0400 phone calls. I can turn my cell ringer off but they always call the home phone immediately after which I cannot easily silence. The IAs are impossible to commute to so even if I had the desire I wouldn't have the ability to make it. Plus the ridiculously early phone calls would have interfered with any crew rest I might have had.

The only option I really see is removing my home phone number. I'm not even sure if there is a major negative other than having a good backup for a GS if my cell is inop or I accidentally leave the ringer off.
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