Originally Posted by LeineLodge

At least your spamming is consistent. Mods, can we consolidate all of these identical posts into a special Jerry thread so I can enjoy them all at once?

Jerry, is this specific info gleaned from someone in the know? If so, please share your source. There is clearly a comm vacuum that is begging to be filled with any tidbit of information.

If you spread your made up numbers (with no context of the entire deal btw) for the next 5 days, I'd argue that you are actually helping the company lower our expectations.

To use your numbers (that I don't buy unless you can name a source):

Jerry says PS will be reduced by 5.75%

Hypothetical TA comes out and it is reduced by 2%.

Suddenly that doesn't sound so bad since Jerry has had us all bracing for a larger offset. Win!

For another example, let's go with everything you say as true, but we somehow achieved a min day of 8 hours, resulting in a huge increase in W2 and lots more time off....Now how does the TA look? Bullet points (especially fabricated ones) are useless without context.

We could do this for the next 5 days; making up BS* and arguing about it. I don't expect it to stop, and don't really care, but wouldn't it be more civilized if we allow the oft-slandered "process" to work itself out, and THEN pick it apart when we have the facts. I know I look forward to seeing the whole package (good and bad) and the spirited debates that will come with it.



*Jerry, as I've said before, I know you're a great guy in person. We've flown together and I thoroughly enjoyed the whole 5 days. I will happily retract my statement above and apologize if you can put up your source and/or provide concrete details of the TA. Everyone I know that has seen the deal isn't talking about it. If you know something different, please share.

Originally Posted by Ferd149

I just wish the rumors had some consistency, the numbers seem to be all over the charts.

"My deep throat source is better than your source'........"No mine is"

But, to be fair.........I just limited myself to 10 pages back. Has anyone set up a pool? How much does closest to the pin get

Ferd

PS.........who is TSquare now?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

First of all Leine, you've always been a very consistent spammer of totally supporting anything DALPA, so you're no one to throw stones. Also, nice to see you've joined the ranks of the "but what if we get this" crowd. Specifically, "but what if we get an 8 hour minimum day?" Like others with the "but what if we give away profit sharing and get a 50% increase of pay rates on day 1?" Silly.

Regarding information, it's really not a total vacuum. Council 1 was pretty specific when they said just a few days ago: "The company's shopping cart is quite full already, and ours, not so much." I think we can all agree that the company's shopping cart wouldn't contain gains for pilots.

So what we know for certain is that the TA signed by our negotiating committee contains so many concessions in it (yes concessions), that the council 1 reps couldn't imagine the company's shopping cart holding any more concessions. We also know that the council 1 reps were underwhelmed at the gains that were in our cart.

So in the best negotiating environment we'll likely EVER see again in our lifetimes, our MEC administration brings us a TA with numerous concessions for us and minimal gains for us. Donutelli asked us to give his administration the chance to show us what they can do in the first real Section 6 in over a decade...and this is what they bring.

Carl

Originally Posted by LeineLodge

The point was any made up details prior to having the entire deal to examine the context is silly. Thanks for confirming that, and nice attempt at twisting my words.

The council 1 meeting (Monday) was prior to the latest special MEC meeting (tues, wed of this past week) so again, there is a vacuum lacking any factual information.

The spamming comment was aimed at Jerry's identical posts on multiple threads, but you knew that.

Carry on Carl.

Originally Posted by satchip

And the Oscar for best underwater overboob scene in a drama goes too....

Alexandra Daddario in San Andreas!

Originally Posted by gloopy

That kid looks like he just saw something that he can never unsee.

Originally Posted by GivemeVSP

Don't have more than enough pilots? OC Miller's news letter released today just stated hiring was slowing down...only 300 more for the rest of 2015, which is less than 50/mo.

Crew resources news letter just said their need for hiring is slowing down too...

If Delta needs more pilots, why the decision to slow down?

I bet the TA sold the farm on productivity.

What happened to more money AND more time off?????

Originally Posted by iceman49

114 minutes I will never get back!
Didn't expect much, got even less.

Originally Posted by Ferd149

Went and saw "Spy" yesterday. Typical Melissa McCarthy flick but with Paul Feig writing and directing I laughed my *** off. Worth the price of a late morning matinee......but the price they get for M&Ms these days is highway robbery!

Spy (2015) - IMDb

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Uncle Ferd!!

Tsquare is now Bender Rodriguez.

Go figure.

Carl