Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-03-2015, 08:11 PM
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06-03-2015, 11:21 PM
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06-04-2015, 04:27 AM
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06-04-2015, 04:41 AM
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The grievance was not about the FAR. It was about the contract limitation in Section 4 on hours of service. We don't grieve FAR's…we grieve violations of our contract. It just so happened that the FAR's also limited hours of service for a pilot.
I don't worry about arbitrator's decisions, but I recognize there is risk when a third party makes a decision to settle a dispute. I don't worry about an engine failure during takeoff, but I prepare for it by having my hand on the throttles - even if it's statistically unlikely.
Had this grievance gone to the System Board, and all we got out of it was a "cease & desist" order by a certain date, or a decision that changed the definition of "EASK" (The 1990 arbitrator's award led to a change of the definition of "pilot" in our contract!), would we be better off?
Had this grievance gone to the System Board, and all we got out of it was a "cease & desist" order by a certain date, or a decision that changed the definition of "EASK" (The 1990 arbitrator's award led to a change of the definition of "pilot" in our contract!), would we be better off?
06-04-2015, 04:51 AM
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Had this grievance gone to the System Board, and all we got out of it was a "cease & desist" order by a certain date, or a decision that changed the definition of "EASK" (The 1990 arbitrator's award led to a change of the definition of "pilot" in our contract!), would we be better off?
06-04-2015, 06:10 AM
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That's an interesting discussion point. Is it beneficial to us to force the company into a less profitable marketing or ops position?
I suppose if it gave us leverage to tighten-up the 1.E terms, then maybe so. If it didn't, then we'd be defecating in our own living room.
From a historical perspective, we've gained more from deals with a handshake, then deals at gunpoint. That 3% raise we got as a result of our strike was sweet, though. Not as sweet financially as the JCBA or C2012, but it was a fight - so it was righteous.
I suppose if it gave us leverage to tighten-up the 1.E terms, then maybe so. If it didn't, then we'd be defecating in our own living room.
From a historical perspective, we've gained more from deals with a handshake, then deals at gunpoint. That 3% raise we got as a result of our strike was sweet, though. Not as sweet financially as the JCBA or C2012, but it was a fight - so it was righteous.
06-04-2015, 07:21 AM
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Getting rid of B scale as a result of the strike.
06-04-2015, 08:04 AM
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06-04-2015, 08:19 AM
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Correct. 3-year phase out.
Company was very profitable. We'd just won (1996) the Snap-Up arbitration. Went on strike with 6 items still open. Clinton sent his counsel to end it. 3 items went to the company. 3 to us.
We showed them!
Company was very profitable. We'd just won (1996) the Snap-Up arbitration. Went on strike with 6 items still open. Clinton sent his counsel to end it. 3 items went to the company. 3 to us.
We showed them!
06-04-2015, 08:35 AM
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